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A lot of us would be happier without auto-fill. I feel it ruins competitive integrity.

Moriss··2 votes·546 views

Having the system rigged to sucker you into a role where you play at your worst isn't fun and arguably isn't fair either. I'll gladly take a 20 minute queue time just to not put up with it. Every time I get filled to support you're forcing me to embrace a mindset and playstyle that i'm not familiar with. It's a deep dark angry place where frustrations run high because I know I'm going to be playing near my worst every time.

The only feasible solution is to embrace the least popular role or take LP and time penalties ever single time . The one that just isn't statistically the least popular but personally as well. It's really anti fun something you guys seem to embrace a lot when you preach game design.

At the very least could we remove the LP Penalty on dodging autofill games? Time penalty seems like enough and it would at least ease some pain to what looks like it's going to be a long term problem in this game.

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Dynikus5 votes

Every time I get filled to support you're forcing me to embrace a mindset and playstyle that i'm not familiar with. It's a deep dark angry place where frustrations run high because I know I'm going to be playing near my worst every time.

Have you considered practicing support? You should be atleast proficient with every role.

McFatal1 votes

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Have you considered practicing support? You should be atleast proficient with every role.

no one wants to play support.

riot cant and shouldnt force us to play a role we dont enjoy.

that removes the entire point of the video game.

more like "we chose this role for you and if u dont play it you get banned"

fuck kind of logic is that

DrCyanide5 votes

Every team based game I'm aware of has roles you like playing more than others. If you're playing with a bunch of random people all the time, then you're going to have to play a role you don't like. That's how life works.

If you don't want to get assigned to a role you don't like, then get a group of people together and queue together.

Fun Fact: Playing "Fill" in Blind Pick will result in you getting Support 35-40% of the time. That means that 65-60% of the time someone else wants to play Support more than Mid/Top/Jungle/ADC.

The problem isn't the role, it's the mindset of some players.

McFatal1 votes

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DrCyanide5 votes

My mind? My mind is you're acting like a baby.

You've played 41.67% of your ranked games Top, 50.69% of them Mid, for a total of 92.36% of your ranked games in one of 2 roles. Of your 144 ranked games you've been Autofilled a grand total of 10 times. You've gone even so far on Support, winning 3 games and losing 3 games.

Your bigger problem is that you're not winning all that often in one of your preferred roles. You've got a 45% win rate Top, needing to win your next 6 games in a row to get to a 50% win rate there.

You know how many Jungle games you need to win to get to 50%? 1. You know how many ADC games you need to win to get to 50%? 1. You know how many Support games you need to win to get to 50%? 0.

Basically, Auto Fill isn't the root of all your troubles. You, personally, are just about as likely to win Top as you are to win any Auto Filled position you play.

So quit crying like a baby that you didn't get to play your beloved Top or Mid, at least until you can pull a 50% win rate in both. After that you might have a leg to stand on.

Terozu1 votes

Way to wreck Cyanide XD

Dynikus4 votes

Did you play prior to season 6? Or do you play other games, like overwatch for example? Ranked is a test of your prowess. If you play mid and top at a plat level, jg at gold, adc at silver, and your support is on par with bronze players, you're not really plat.

McFatal1 votes

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Did you play prior to season 6? Or do you play other games, like overwatch for example? Ranked is a test of your prowess. If you play mid and top at a plat level, jg at gold, adc at silver, and your support is on par with bronze players, you're not really plat.

lol?

i INSTANTLY knew you were unranked once i read that.

its always the unranked players to tell you you dont desevre your rank or that you're bad or some shit.

if im gold or plat, it doenst mean im gold or plat at every elo.

go ask bjergson how his adc is.

your logic is beyond disgusting.

i cant believe someone can actually think like that.

hey dyrus ur a challenger top laner but WAIT you suck ass at adc so guess what idiot you dont desevre your rank

Dynikus5 votes

Bjergson gets autofilled too, and can play every role proficiently. He's obviously better as a mid laner than adc, but that doesn't mean he'll just feed his ass off if he gets anything but his main role.

What does my current season 7 rank or lack thereof have to do with anything though? You know making personal attacks doesn't actually make for a good argument, right?

McFatal1 votes

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Dynikus4 votes

? that will just mean hes going to play safe and smart.

yes. As in he's proficient enough with the role to not instantly lose because he got put into it.

And yes, trying to discredit someone's argument by targeting them rather than what they say is generally known as a personal attack. I couldn't care less what you think about me and don't feel offended in the least, I'm just saying it makes for a piss poor argument. I never said I was superior to anyone, nor did I say you have to be pristine in every role. You use a lot of red herrings, my friend.

Aeszarck3 votes

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? that will just mean hes going to play safe and smart.

if he was on his main role he would knwo exactly what to do and when to do it.

personal attacks >> lolllllllll

my god this website is a fucking joke.

bunch of unranked morde mains trying to tell everyone they are superior than them and that they cant be wrong but once you name their rank they get offended.

learn what a personal attack is before you speak.

same kind of person to call someone toxic if that person asks you to stop feeding.

your logic is to climb you have to be pristine in each role

thats flawed as fuck

ask the 1 tricks how they feel about those words you spew out of your mouth.

ask the jungle top mains how they feel about your logic.

not one person with an average amount of brain cells will agree.

Stop being so provocative with your replies. There's absolutely no reason to be so condescending to people who you disagree with. You're not actually providing any argument here either, you're just telling Dynikus, "ask other people, and you don't have an average amount of brain cells and I can't believe your opinion." You haven't even presented any support for your opinion.

sheldonbunny3 votes

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no one wants to play support.

Speaking in absolutes is a foolish endeavor. While not prominent, there is a smaller faithful group that do in fact choose, enjoy, and may even love supporting. So you may want to word things more carefully in the future to not spread falsehoods.

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hey dyrus ur a challenger top laner but WAIT you suck ass at adc so guess what idiot you dont desevre your rank

Often enough he forgoes the traditional marksmen and has taken Jayce, Yasuo and others to botlane. Honestly he's not half bad at Jhin either if he has a reliable support.

Terozu1 votes

Actually by the meaning of competitive integrity, it, if anything, increases it, since it means that you must be ready for any and all possible occasions, how about you find out what something means before you make a public post with it?

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