I think Riot should lift all bans, suspensions and chat restrictions and start people off fresh. If you aren't going to give something out for free in fear it may dip into your hundreds of millions, at least you could do something for the players that made your company what it is.
Add troll responses below and merry christmas
Jamaree3 votes"Man, these people were the most toxic of the toxic, I'm sure they won't be just because it is Christmas."
pcfmYiJC8R1 votesThe community always has and always will be toxic. Doesn't mean you shouldn't reward them for making this one of the most popular games or richest. I mean it's Christmas, Every other game i play is giving their player something for christmas for free yet the most money making game won't?
I'm sure i'll get spammed with the whole RIOT DOESN'T OWE ANYONE ANYTHING speech but if it wasn't for the player base they wouldn't be a multi million dollar company let alone a game in general.
Jamaree2 votesThe community always has and always will be toxic. Doesn't mean you shouldn't reward them for making this one of the most popular games or richest. I mean it's Christmas, Every other game i play is giving their player something for christmas for free yet the most money making game won't?
I'm sure i'll get spammed with the whole RIOT DOESN'T OWE ANYONE ANYTHING speech but if it wasn't for the player base they wouldn't be a multi million dollar company let alone a game in general.
Fine, reward the non toxic players then.
pcfmYiJC8R1 votesWhy? Toxic players spent just as much time and money in this game as people who choose not to stand up for them self in game. Either way Riot should give out something to it's player base for making them a billion + dollar company.
Your logic is like giving one kid Christmas gifts and not the other because they misbehaved sometime during that year.. Logically and morally that is wrong just like saying because someone said some stuff in the heat of the moment in a few games his money & time is any less important then someone who didn't.
Agent20901 votesJust because toxic people spent money on the game doesn't give them the right to be toxic. Go anywhere that requires you to pay to get in and it works the same way. An amusement park for example. You pay to get in, but if you start screaming and yelling at people to kill themselves, you are going to get kicked out, maybe even arrested (not for any serious crime, but the possibility is there).
The difference here is that LoL doesn't require you to pay, but there is no difference between those that pay and those that don't. Paying money doesn't give you special treatment nor does it give you the right to be an asshole. Just because the toxic people helped "make them a billion+ dollar company" doesn't mean they get a free pass.
pcfmYiJC8R1 votesI never said it gives them the right, I said it doesn't make them any less important if you actually read my post. If you want to go by real life logic then you are allowed to voice your opinion due because of freedom of speech which in this game you don't even have to talk in chat to get reported. You can simply play a champ someone didn't want you to, Steal a kill, or just be better than the other team and they will report you.
There was a post I read where someone said "Reporting is fun! you will bet that every game 9 outta 10 people are getting reported"
If I donated half a million dollars to that amusement park I will bet you I will get away with a lot more than the average person. Getting mad is part of gaming, every game allows you to say how you feel or what you want as long as it's not racism or direct threats. Take wow for example, you can say pretty much w/e you want.. "You Suck" Unistall" "Noob" etc and not be punished for it and they have a less toxic community than league does.
I'm so sick of that excuse "LOL is FREE 2 PLAY" You don't Have to pay .... Yea but if players didn't spend money and invest in their game their game wouldn't exist now would it? Why do you think they have law suits for companies who hire you? Just because they pay you doesn't give them a right to treat you like crap.. Riot apparently has no laws or rules to follow so they can take your money, ban you for any reason and that's it. Seems fair right? or more like communism?.
Toxic or not all players who invest time and spend are equally important to Riots success rather you are in Denial about it or not.
I bet more toxic people spend more money than none toxic people and that is because people who are toxic are most the time more addicted to the game and care while people who just don't give a crap make them toxic and contribute nothing.
Agent20901 votesI never said it gives them the right, I said it doesn't make them any less important if you actually read my post. If you want to go by real life logic then you are allowed to voice your opinion due because of freedom of speech which in this game you don't even have to talk in chat to get reported. You can simply play a champ someone didn't want you to, Steal a kill, or just be better than the other team and they will report you.
Sure, you are allowed to voice your opinion, but there's a difference between voicing your opinion and being toxic. I've never seen anyone get banned from reports stemming from the reasons you've put. I, myself, have been reported (at least, the people claimed they reported me) and a warning is all I ever saw.
If I donated half a million dollars to that amusement park I will bet you I will get away with a lot more than the average person.
This is actually true, and it's sad that it is. Fortunately, not everything works like that.
Getting mad is part of gaming, every game allows you to say how you feel or what you want as long as it's not racism or direct threats. Take wow for example, you can say pretty much w/e you want.. "You Suck" Unistall" "Noob" etc and not be punished for it and they have a less toxic community than league does.
Sure, I'll concede that getting mad is part of gaming, especially competitive gaming. But this isn't WoW, and this isn't Blizzard. Different games have different rules. Just because one game allows one thing doesn't mean every game does. Try saying "you suck" or "noob" in a Disney mmo and see how long your account lasts.
I'm so sick of that excuse "LOL is FREE 2 PLAY" You don't Have to pay .... Yea but if players didn't spend money and invest in their game their game wouldn't exist now would it? Why do you think they have law suits for companies who hire you? Just because they pay you doesn't give them a right to treat you like crap.. Riot apparently has no laws or rules to follow so they can take your money, ban you for any reason and that's it. Seems fair right? or more like communism?.
There is no difference between those that pay and those that don't. If a person is completely toxic, they get warned, restricted, banned, and permabanned like everyone else. I can guarantee that Riot is doing just fine without those that are banned. It doesn't matter that they "helped them get to where they are". They continually broke the rules and are now paying the price. If someone never learned their lesson all the way up to a permaban, they are never going to learn their lesson anyway. They don't ban for "any reason". And they are pretty quick to appeal a ban if it was unjustified.
You get people on the forum claiming they were unjustly banned, then a red comes on and tells them why they were banned and suddenly you have the banned saying things like, "but we were losing!" Yeah, you were losing, so you had to tell someone already having a bad game to kill themselves and they you hope they get cancer or something.
Being like that in one game should be enough for a ban, in my opinion, but Riot doesn't ban on the first offense. The most you would get is a chat restriction, if anything.
Toxic or not all players who invest time and spend are equally important to Riots success rather you are in Denial about it or not.
Not in denial at all. Sure, those that are toxic have helped the game get to where it is. You know what's a really good way to continue that success and get more new customers? Getting rid of the toxic people. It's a common business practice for companies to cut off parts that push customers away. Ruthless? Sure, but it works.
I bet more toxic people spend more money than none toxic people and that is because people who are toxic are most the time more addicted to the game and care while people who just don't give a crap make them toxic and contribute nothing.
I'm just going to go ahead and call bullshit on this.
pcfmYiJC8R1 votesDidn't bother reading, no point seeing as how I lost interest in any opinion you had after the first post.
Agent20901 votesI'm right you're wrong lalalalalalalalala
Is what I just read.
You're funny.
Jamaree1 votesWhy? Toxic players spent just as much time and money in this game as people who choose not to stand up for them self in game. Either way Riot should give out something to it's player base for making them a billion + dollar company.
I'm sorry, I'm doing to have to call bullshit on this one. There is standing up for yourself, and there is calling someone a piece of shit scumbag that deserves to have his entire bloodline removed from the earth. No one has ever been permabanned for strictly standing up for themselves.
Your logic is like giving one kid Christmas gifts and not the other because they misbehaved sometime during that year..
You...you mean EXACTLY what people tell Santa does to kids right? Like this is LITERALLY what people say about Christmas.
Logically and morally that is wrong just like saying because someone said some stuff in the heat of the moment in a few games his money & time is any less important then someone who didn't.
It isn't just a few games they said this to get banned, they said it over...and over...and over...and over again to get banned, just because it is Christmas doesn't mean you should be given ANOTHER chance over all the other ones. You knew the consequences, you choose to keep disobeying the rules, so you don't deserve to come back.
pcfmYiJC8R1 votesWhat's the difference if someone calls you a scumbag or you stand up for yourself? The report punishment is still the same and considered toxic? So I don't see the difference.
I don't get the Santa reference you could have worded it better I guess?
That is not the case, I know from experience and other peoples experience where they get reported for the dumbest things and the one game they are toxic and get chat restricted banned. I got reported for shen support, reported for being on a smurf and reported for supposedly stealing a kill, then one game I got fed up with the stupidity of my team bitching at each other I told them to stfu and just play and I got a chat restriction for 40+ games.
Everyone including you is toxic, rather you post it in game chat or not I can tell by your trolling on the forums it's part of your personality. So by your logic you are part of that group and just don't get suspended because you don't type it.
Lets look at the rules shall we? You are basically not allowed to talk in chat , voice your opinion or ask why your mid heimer dinger is building ad because literally anyone can take offense to anything and report you for it. Those are basically the most strict rules i've ever came acrossed in a game. Racism ? Sure.. Harassing? Sure.. but voicing an opinion someone doesn't like when they clearly have the option to mute you and don't? That's on them.
If you want to pretend like you never said or did anything toxic in this game or in rl and you are so perfect go for it, just expect me to believe it or think you are any better than someone else because you don't reported as much as the next guy,
Jamaree1 votesWhat's the difference if someone calls you a scumbag or you stand up for yourself? The report punishment is still the same and considered toxic? So I don't see the difference.
Because standing up for yourself doesn't get you banned, being a scumbag does. You have never seen someone who has solely been banned just for defending themselves, ever, don't act like you have and don't act like you were either.
I don't get the Santa reference you could have worded it better I guess?
Telling kids that if they aren't good year round they won't get presents.
That is not the case, I know from experience and other peoples experience where they get reported for the dumbest things and the one game they are toxic and get chat restricted banned. I got reported for shen support, reported for being on a smurf and reported for supposedly stealing a kill, then one game I got fed up with the stupidity of my team bitching at each other I told them to stfu and just play and I got a chat restriction for 40+ games.
That is just it. You can get reported for those things, however, you won't be chat restricted, banned, or even WARNED. You wanna tell us about those cases you told your allies to go kill themselves or some other kind of unnecessary amount of flaming you did?
Everyone including you is toxic, rather you post it in game chat or not I can tell by your trolling on the forums it's part of your personality. So by your logic you are part of that group and just don't get suspended because you don't type it.
Why, I'm toxic because I don't agree that toxic players should be given ANOTHER chance, that sounds rather ass backward.
Lets look at the rules shall we? You are basically not allowed to talk in chat , voice your opinion or ask why your mid heimer dinger is building ad because literally anyone can take offense to anything and report you for it. Those are basically the most strict rules i've ever came acrossed in a game. Racism ? Sure.. Harassing? Sure.. but voicing an opinion someone doesn't like when they clearly have the option to mute you and don't? That's on them.
You can voice your opinion, you can ask about weird builds, you can do all that, I do it all the time, the difference between me and you however is I don't fly off the handle and insult my allies when I do. I ask calmly and make suggestions, now say "Go fuck yourself and your stupid build."
If you want to pretend like you never said or did anything toxic in this game or in rl and you are so perfect go for it, just expect me to believe it or think you are any better than someone else because you don't reported as much as the next guy,
I'm not perfect, I have made plenty of forum post saying such, but I don't rage to the degree of getting banned or even warned. Not a single person on these forums (except maybe Mystic Blue Fox) can say they haven't raged, trolled, flamed, or etc at least ONCE. I have, every poster in this page has, every poster on these boards...period. The difference between the banned players and unbanned players is they don't do it often. Everyone has a point where they flip, everyone. So that is why I don't think banned players should be given even MORE chances. You were warned, you were chat restricted, you were banned, and then permabanned, if you didn't learn the first few times, you weren't going to learn ANY of these other times and chances are you, are just going to come back and rage some more. But ignore me, call me a troll, call me toxic, at least I'm not banned.
pcfmYiJC8R1 votesThe ironic thing if you believe the crap you are saying,I really don't care enough about your opinions to continue arguing. Facts are Facts plain and simple.
DrCyanide1 votesI think Riot should lift all bans, suspensions and chat restrictions and start people off fresh.
Sounds more like a New Years Resolution (and a contract with the toxic players) than a Christmas gift.
It defiantly sounds like a lump of coal for all the good boys and girls who didn't get banned.
pcfmYiJC8R1 votesHumans are Humans, one human is not any less important then another human. That's like saying you love one kid more over the other because he acted out more then the other kid that year. Money and time spent in this game is the same rather you were toxic at one point or not.. That's why the only people sticking up for this idea is people who think their self worth is more important then anyone else because they got less reports than the other person.
When it's all said and done this is a game and to value one human over the other is just as stupid as one person telling the other person he hopes they die of cancer because they lost a game. Riot community treats anyone who isn't just like them as if they don't deserve to live as if you never said or did anything in your life that wasn't moral or you regret.
League has the most toxic community of any other game with the most strictest punishments handed out for the most simple things.. Obviously punishing people isn't working its making them more toxic and more pissed off.. Reward people for good behavior and I bet you will see a dramatic downsize in toxicity.
For Christmas everyone should get something for spending money and putting time into this game, that is the only reason why Riot is successful. Without a player base and people spending money their game would have failed at launch.
DrCyanide2 votesI'm extremely confused by your reply. I know personally I got less reports because I did less reportable offenses. I've tried to help people who looked like they were struggling and not add to their frustration. Why should the good I've done for the community be undone over night? Why should the community have to go back to its most toxic state?
In life there are consequences for your actions. While giving second chances to those who are willing to change is a noble idea, blindly handing them out to everyone is rather foolish. I don't think the jails are going to let everyone free today, just because it's Christmas, to show their support of everyone who has paid taxes this year. Bans are LoL's equivalent of jail time, forcefully removing people from the community for a time frame.
Lyte already mentioned there is probably going to be another reward coming out before the end of the year, and acknowledged that while the punishment system has gotten some overhauls, the reward system still needs some work. Let's see what they do, shall we?
pcfmYiJC8R1 votesTruth is Toxic people contribute as much as the people who aren't as toxic. Plain and simple rather it be money wise or time invested. That's fact- You can argue it with opinions but it won't change.
Another fact is a $billion + company should give it's players something for christmas (Everyone) . Riot is just greedy.