Trolls....

pcfmYiJC8R··4 votes·1,419 views

Does anyone every focus on the trolls that make people toxic instead of just going after the people who are toxic? Most people wouldn't be toxic if people didn't troll games but people would rather focus on the person calling someone an idiot and reporting them while defending the 2 -25-0 adc or mid or top.

I just find it funny how people can push peoples buttons so hard to try to get them to rage and yet everyone is like, it's not the trolls fault it's you being toxic.... Let get real.

Stupidity is amazing.

27 Comments

Aerothal3 votes

your reaction to a troll is 100% your choice.

There is no such thing as "he made me do it".

You have the choice to ignore the troll, to mute the troll, to report the troll.

If your reaction is to talk back, to insult back etc... that's your choice. If you get reported and punished for that it's your fault. The troll didn't make you toxic.

pcfmYiJC8R3 votes

Wow you are stupid... The troll 100% did make me toxic. I don't care if you think your opinion is right it isn't. Real life speaks for itself... If someone screws up on the job, you get pissed. If someone throws a game in sports you are going to be pissed and if someone trolls a game on purpose you are going to be pissed.

It's people like you with no balls to stand up against trolls is why they get away with it.. now i'm starting to think you are a troll.

Aerothal2 votes

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Wow you are stupid... The troll 100% did make me toxic. I don't care if you think your opinion is right it isn't. Real life speaks for itself... If someone screws up on the job, you get pissed. If someone throws a game in sports you are going to be pissed and if someone trolls a game on purpose you are going to be pissed.

It's people like you with no balls to stand up against trolls is why they get away with it.. now i'm starting to think you are a troll.

look at your reaction. I am posting my point of view in a discussion forum. Your answer "Wow you are stupid". I wasn't even offensive/making fun of you, even though you gave me so much fuel, it would have been easy too. Apparently one can ignite you even without flames. That is really funny! You should maybe get some counseling and see why you are so angry!

BigNasty30002 votes

To be fair, your answer is pretty stupid. What you are trying to say is that 2 wrongs don't make a right, yet this isn't exactly how society operates. It is generally agreed that you can incite the emotions of others, and this is a punishable offense in real life. Yet somehow, in this game, we want to pretend as if the cause doesn't matter. It is extremely off-putting and contributes to the rage you claim to be above.

I'd much rather have someone say "fuck you" to my face than be a passive-aggressive asshole like you. People like you go around pushing people's buttons and then pretending to be innocent. It's incredibly juvenile, and makes me sick. People like you tend to get a hard life-lesson about pushing people's buttons though. I had a friend who had to get his jaw wired shut for a month because he enjoyed getting under people's skin. Unfortunately, the protection of your internet connection prevents this type of behavior from being corrected in game. I hope someone corrects you in real life soon!

Matthias91194 votes

To be fair, your answer is pretty stupid. What you are trying to say is that 2 wrongs don't make a right, yet this isn't exactly how society operates. It is generally agreed that you can incite the emotions of others, and this is a punishable offense in real life. Yet somehow, in this game, we want to pretend as if the cause doesn't matter. It is extremely off-putting and contributes to the rage you claim

Actually, the RL justice system mostly follows "two wrongs don't make a right". 'That guy was such an asshole I HAD to punch him in the face!' will not get you very far in court. Self-defense is excused only if you had no other options; if you can walk away and choose not to then you're forefeiting any claim to "self defense". (Except for goofy "stand your ground" laws, but even then you must have a reasonable fear of harm.)

Basically, in the kind of situation the OP describes, there are two possibilities:

  1. the player really is trolling and wants to make you angry. In this case, getting mad and yelling at them is exactly what they want.

  2. the player is legitimately struggling - maybe they're lagging, maybe they're inexperienced, maybe it's a bad matchup in lane or the enemy jungler camped them or they just got distracted/greedy and made mistakes. In this case, getting mad and yelling at them is extremely unlikely to help the situation; they are likely to get defensive about it and play even worse, or just give up entirely.

Either way you're much better off not losing it. Not to mention that by Riot policy, you'll both get punished if you are both being jerks.

pcfmYiJC8R1 votes

Naw I wouldn't go off on on people who were legitimately struggling. Only people who make it obvious and admit they are trolling on purpose are people that piss me off. Doing nothing never solved anything.

Matthias91192 votes

If they're obviously trolling -- mute, report, move on. They'll get banned, you won't.

If you think they need extra special personal attention from Riot, you can open a support ticket too.

pcfmYiJC8R2 votes

ya because chat restriction works so well as a punishment right?

Matthias91191 votes
  1. people who are intentionally feeding get a lot more than chat restrictions. They even have automated systems in place now to flag really blatant feeders (went in last year after the detailed match history logging went live.)

  2. for players abusing chat, chat restrictions are often more effective than time bans. Can't be waited out on a smurf and lets them see how much better the games are when they can't rage and set other players off.

BigNasty30002 votes

Actually, there are several exceptions (self-defense is only one) within the law allowing for the excuse of instant emotion to be used. These exceptions may not get you completely off the hook, but they will get you a lesser charge.

We aren't exactly talking about the law, we are talking about social norms. In a social situation with 9 other people, you can't be completely selfish if you value the social interaction. If you are completely selfish, or do things that the other 9 don't like, you may be ostracized or shunned. This game allows someone to act however they want within a chosen social situation, then anonymously and randomly sign up for another. There is no consequence of "nobody will play with me anymore." Those that would like to have a fulfilling social experience find themselves being toyed with by people either being extremely selfish, or just wanting to ruin everyone else's good time. Trolls would not be tolerated within a face-to-face social interaction. I gave an extreme example of a trollish friend of mine, but the consequences can also be less severe; maybe a lack of friends or people you can trust.

You ignore the possibility of the person stopping the trolling. Why would you like to give the troll the power? If someone ran around doing things to piss people off in real life, would we think the problem is the people that are pissed off? Of course not, because that would be stupid.

Matthias91191 votes

IANAL, just know some. But it's certainly not the case that "hey, he was being a jerk" justifies breaking the law yourself. If someone provokes you and you escalate the situation, you're both usually getting in trouble.

You ignore the possibility of the person stopping the trolling.

I'm not saying you can't communicate with someone and try to get them to stop being disruptive. But giving in and sinking to their level makes things even worse for your other teammates.

Why would you like to give the troll the power?

Most trolls are trying to get a reaction out of you. Engaging with them and getting mad is what they want. Ignoring them takes their power away.

pcfmYiJC8R2 votes

Good fucking God... Don't ever have any offspring .. for the sake of humanity.

BigNasty30001 votes

Continue to live in your fantasy land behind your computer screen. The world is an unforgiving place, much more so than this game. Good luck in life being the type of person who can be annoyed by random insults online.

pcfmYiJC8R2 votes

I don't put up with shit in real life, let alone virgin nerds online. Good luck being that pussy that never stands up for yourself acting like a badass behind a computer screen.

BigNasty30001 votes

Lol, internet badass. You're a coward. I was agreeing with you initially, but now you're just a jackass.

pcfmYiJC8R2 votes

Quit attempting to troll you suck at it...

Aerothal1 votes

you really don't have your emotions in check.

i can imagine you going off in game.

I kinda feel bad for you!

pcfmYiJC8R2 votes

Little bit better but still suck at trolling, keep trying...

P3L3US1 votes

reported for trolling; plain and simple. ;) you are nothing but a troll kid

[slayer-pantheon-thumbs]

Anomander1 votes

You really need to watch a B movie called Roadhouse and pay attention to the 3 simple rules part.

P3L3US2 votes

Tell me if I sat there and smacked you over & over & over & over...eventually you would tell me to piss off kid... so go ahead and argue that those being toxic are to blame and not the trolls...

[zombie-brand-facepalm]

Nucleophilic atk2 votes

I agree. Only in ranked, though. Normals are there to troll around in. I hate when people say "it supposed to be fun cuz game meh". Well, when 1 person trolling is ruining the fun for the other 4 on the team, it has to stop.

iBubbles1 votes

I do agree, but what I do now is if I notice someone must be trolling (or are so stupid they must be trolling) I just ignore them. I don't say anything to or about them. But, still talk and communicate with the rest of your team.

pcfmYiJC8R1 votes

Honestly i never thought of that.. I always go off on the troll and then the team starts defending the guy who just fed 10 kills in 8 minutes and then I get pissed at their stupidity and go off on them. I'll try to mute the troll and see what happens but that doesn't change the fact trolls are what make people toxic and rage and should be dealt with first.

iBubbles1 votes

Yeah muting isn't a bad idea either. Trolls do suck but the League community is full of them. There is really no avoiding them unfortunately. Just try and ignore them and have fun playing (:

Ligerzz1 votes

The mute button is there, the report option at the end is useful. Like the internet always states, "never feed the trolls". Trolls are there to be assholes, and there is no other way in a game to ignore them, except muting them. Fighting back won't make the situation better, but make it worse. You can get pointed at for making a simple comeback and get reported, so just try and ignore them. Self control is what gets destroyed, and should be considered before replying to a troll.

Seriously, i just had a game of custom ARAM, and the enemy xerath reported me for killing him with my passive over and over again as Zyra.

Suck Juice1 votes

I understand what you are saying. If you're defending the person committing the crime, you're no better than the current justice system.

Because let's be real, how many laws defend criminals more than civilians? Case in point, police randomly shooting people meaning them no harm...

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