Not. I didn't get banned because I didn't;
It was really hard, but I managed to not get banned by avoiding those four things.
All of these ruin the game for others. Before you do them, think about how it affects others and how you feel when it happens to you.
If you think your ban or restriction was unwarranted, submit a Support Ticket. The forum community can sympathize with you (or not), but only Player Support can rescind it.
TeemoJenkins27 votesHoly snap... I saw the title, saw the name and was like WHAAAAT? You're still my destiny Valk <3
Deep Terror Nami32 votesYou can blind me with a poison dart and we'll still find each other.
Daen25 votesThat's equal parts poetic and horrible. Well done.
ModWulf Helhammer25 votesI was really confused as to why this thread had a bunch of upvotes, and was getting ready my sarcasm typing skills, then I saw the poster and I realized dammit you got me again
I Main Swain3 votesthat picture is so fantastic...
RiotL4T3NCY32 votesThis whole post lol. <3
http://i1.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/original/000/259/420/d2d.png
Deep Terror Nami7 votes
Ih8ucuzurtoxic1 votesI'm confused why it has up votes as well. It's high horse crap from some guy who obviously knows the system and how to avoid punishment when others do not.
Personally, I think it should be in the negative for votes.
ModWulf Helhammer6 votesHe laid out exactly what you have to do in order to not get banned. What is so hard that people can't see that all they have to do to not get banned is to act maturely and not be a horrible human being?
And since Valk does know what to do in order to not get banned (meaning he (she?) is a mature individual, then they are also sharing the knowledge with everyone else (despite the fact that this should already be common knowledge)
Mecha MaIphite1 votesI think it's pretty self explanatory why cheating, leaving or trolling would get you banned.
Ih8ucuzurtoxic2 votesYes, and yet there's a lot of restrictions and bans sent that are just out of place.
FreddytheFish6 voteseven when lyte was showing people their chat logs there were quite a few times where it was mild to the point eve a chat restrict would be excessive. A lot of them it was obvious THEY'RE getting harassed. Does ruining the game of the people who don't like to be constantly harassed not matter? If they don't thank the flamer for the abuse should they be banned? How much praise is a person supposed to get for being called a worthless scrub who should uninstall 5 times in a row in chat?
Radnar the bold9 voteseven when lyte was showing people their chat logs there were quite a few times where it was mild to the point eve a chat restrict would be excessive. A lot of them it was obvious THEY'RE getting harassed. Does ruining the game of the people who don't like to be constantly harassed not matter? If they don't thank the flamer for the abuse should they be banned? How much praise is a person supposed to get for being called a worthless scrub who should uninstall 5 times in a row in chat?
Really? often when they showed the logs they would be pretty brutal.....i think it was like 1 out of five were they seemed innocent and not harmful. Hell I remember one was reverted because the kid was yelling at himself.
FreddytheFish3 votes[{quoted}](name=Radnar the bold,realm=NA,application-id=cIfEodbz,discussion-id=1IPMxfrx,comment-id=00010000,timestamp=2015-06-12T19:19:31.932+0000)
Really? often when they showed the logs they would be pretty brutal.....i think it was like 1 out of five were they seemed innocent and not harmful. Hell I remember one was reverted because the kid was yelling at himself.
lol, I remember that one. I figured it was closer to half but that is still a lot. Those were just the ones brought up on forum. Their punishment system seems very random with no real structure. The way it stands anyone can be punished at any time and often are. The ones that offend me the most are the ones who get banned for being harassed. I just don't see how it's worse to defend yourself than initiate verbal abuse. Reminds me of being on a school bus where the second person is always the one caught. You think Lyte might be a school bus driver?
Radnar the bold3 voteslol, I remember that one. I figured it was closer to half but that is still a lot. Those were just the ones brought up on forum. Their punishment system seems very random with no real structure. The way it stands anyone can be punished at any time and often are. The ones that offend me the most are the ones who get banned for being harassed. I just don't see how it's worse to defend yourself than initiate verbal abuse. Reminds me of being on a school bus where the second person is always the one caught. You think Lyte might be a school bus driver?
basically he is, evertytime he banned someone when they responded to being harassed he always said "don't reply back, its worse for your team to have to sit through a game with two people flaming each other". Basically its you have to be "polite" when being yelled at, and you can't defend yourself with "verbal harassment". I usually just use positive reinforcement like if they say "you're trash" then I saw "well i hope you're the garbage man and will collect me" or if they say "you should uninstall" then I saw "you're right, it'll give me more time to spend with you ;)".
If their philosophy truly is to just sit there and not respond, then ill devise my own "positive" one to work around that.
CheckMyDoubles6 votesThat's the right answer. Engaging them with flames back and forth accomplishes absolutely nothing except making you play worse and distracting you.
/ignore and report.
Yes it can be satisfying to respond to them but what do you actually gain out of it? You don't have to defend yourself to anyone. You play the best you can in the circumstances you're given. If you're having a bad game, who cares? It happens.
Radnar the bold2 votesThat's the right answer. Engaging them with flames back and forth accomplishes absolutely nothing except making you play worse and distracting you.
/ignore and report.
Yes it can be satisfying to respond to them but what do you actually gain out of it? You don't have to defend yourself to anyone. You play the best you can in the circumstances you're given. If you're having a bad game, who cares? It happens.
I agree, It makes sense in the long run. Though you may feel it better to respond, its just feeding the fire more timber. The only way to stop the hate is to either ignore or respond politely. Like I said, you shouldn't troll a flamer or rage or even engage to respond politely or ignore.
FreddytheFish1 votes[{quoted}](name=Radnar the bold,realm=NA,application-id=cIfEodbz,discussion-id=1IPMxfrx,comment-id=0001000000000000,timestamp=2015-06-12T20:13:48.370+0000)
basically he is, evertytime he banned someone when they responded to being harassed he always said "don't reply back, its worse for your team to have to sit through a game with two people flaming each other". Basically its you have to be "polite" when being yelled at, and you can't defend yourself with "verbal harassment". I usually just use positive reinforcement like if they say "you're trash" then I saw "well i hope you're the garbage man and will collect me" or if they say "you should uninstall" then I saw "you're right, it'll give me more time to spend with you ;)".
If their philosophy truly is to just sit there and not respond, then ill devise my own "positive" one to work around that.
Seems like what riot wants. Only trolls and stockholms are allowed in LoL. If you have the nerve to break your rapists jaw you deserve jail time for battery.
I just don't think I should have to tell the rapist he's pretty to be able to escape being punished
Daen6 votesYeah...rape is not even close to being an accurate analogy.
Here's one that isn't ridiculously inflated. Someone is standing on the opposite side of the street yelling at you that your face looks stupid, there are lots of people around. Do you yell back that his face also looks stupid and get into a shouting match, with all these people around getting annoyed by this childish display?
Radnar the bold2 votesSeems like what riot wants. Only trolls and stockholms are allowed in LoL. If you have the nerve to break your rapists jaw you deserve jail time for battery.
I just don't think I should have to tell the rapist he's pretty to be able to escape being punished
Its more of fighting there system of ignoring/reporting. may believe the best way it to just ignore them and let them do what they want and that will change the gameplay. All it changes is that he is ignored, he will still lash out in some way or form.
Ragers are like toddlers, they make a scene until they now they are heard. if they get noticed they feed off that person until they are satisfied( the best copying strat they see to deal with their rage). The reason i believe simply ignoring them doesn't work is because they will lash out bigger and bigger (being it feeding or make stupid plays to run the game).
There really is no best way, because even if you report them the damage is done.
FreddytheFish1 votes[{quoted}](name=Radnar the bold,realm=NA,application-id=cIfEodbz,discussion-id=1IPMxfrx,comment-id=000100000000000000010001,timestamp=2015-06-12T22:55:16.876+0000)
Its more of fighting there system of ignoring/reporting. may believe the best way it to just ignore them and let them do what they want and that will change the gameplay. All it changes is that he is ignored, he will still lash out in some way or form.
Ragers are like toddlers, they make a scene until they now they are heard. if they get noticed they feed off that person until they are satisfied( the best copying strat they see to deal with their rage). The reason i believe simply ignoring them doesn't work is because they will lash out bigger and bigger (being it feeding or make stupid plays to run the game).
There really is no best way, because even if you report them the damage is done.
you get banned for using their system. "report this guy for trolling" is one of the most punishable things you can say. Not kidding.
Deep Terror Nami6 votesThat's because using reports as a way to coerce people is harassment. Do not tell them you're going to report them. Do not engage in a toxic argument with them. Mute them if they won't shut up, and report them.
Learn how to stow your ego and respond to them nicely or not at all, however little they deserve it.
Ih8ucuzurtoxic1 votesIf that's true there's a huge issue. Maybe that's why I got restricted. I do think it's acceptable to say something to that effect when it's very true. The rager that screams this is different than someone that explains that a team mate was so toxic that it caused 2 other people to be toxic back to them and they ended up chatting instead of playing.
FreddytheFish1 votesIf that's true there's a huge issue. Maybe that's why I got restricted. I do think it's acceptable to say something to that effect when it's very true. The rager that screams this is different than someone that explains that a team mate was so toxic that it caused 2 other people to be toxic back to them and they ended up chatting instead of playing.
sadly, it seems very true. This account just got a two week ban, and i never instigate and only rarely respond to trolls. I'd say in the last couple weeks I might have said enough to be considered toxic maybe 3 or 4 times (all but one time so mild it really wasn't toxic), I Never harass people, I never initiate an argument, and I never insult people unless they insult me and even then I don't usually insult them (there are of course a few times but not many. Few and far inbetween)
Now the account I use to troll while I have a bad streak in teammates has trolled 500+ games (feeding and insulting/harassing teammates) It's been unpunished (except for a chat restrict, funny story because I refused to say anything in chat and only fed at first, till I got a chat restrict, then I started harassing/insulting too) since December, and definitely has more reports than games played.
Which would you think should be punished? I made the second account to see how long it takes riot to ban a troll. I guess I should have started it just to find out if they ban them at all.
Mecha MaIphite1 votesBecause being an ass in video games is equivalent to rape
FreddytheFish1 votesBecause being an ass in video games is equivalent to rape
Never heard of a comparative analogy before huh?
Mecha MaIphite1 votesNot a very effective analogy.
FreddytheFish1 votesNot a very effective analogy.
I'll see your opinion and raise you my opinion; It is better than most, albeit extreme, it covers all aspects of riots flawed system
CheckMyDoubles3 voteseven when lyte was showing people their chat logs there were quite a few times where it was mild to the point eve a chat restrict would be excessive. A lot of them it was obvious THEY'RE getting harassed. Does ruining the game of the people who don't like to be constantly harassed not matter? If they don't thank the flamer for the abuse should they be banned? How much praise is a person supposed to get for being called a worthless scrub who should uninstall 5 times in a row in chat?
I'd like to see some examples of these unnecessary bans, because I don't believe it.
Honestly, answering toxic behavior with more toxic behavior isn't the solution. Just /ignore them and report them after the match. Eventually if they make it a trend, it will catch up with them. That's really all you can do. Other than bringing you down to their level, how does justifying your decisions, play, etc, to trolls make any difference? They aren't suddenly going to be like, "Oh wow, I never thought of it that way, I'm going to immediately change my behavior."
Engaging them only distracts you from the game and playing well. Which is why you notice a lot of pro streamers don't engage into that nonsense.
FreddytheFish2 votesI'd like to see some examples of these unnecessary bans, because I don't believe it.
Honestly, answering toxic behavior with more toxic behavior isn't the solution. Just /ignore them and report them after the match. Eventually if they make it a trend, it will catch up with them. That's really all you can do. Other than bringing you down to their level, how does justifying your decisions, play, etc, to trolls make any difference? They aren't suddenly going to be like, "Oh wow, I never thought of it that way, I'm going to immediately change my behavior."
Engaging them only distracts you from the game and playing well. Which is why you notice a lot of pro streamers don't engage into that nonsense.
they don't? I want to see some examples of pros not engaging into that nonsense
CheckMyDoubles3 votesI can think specifically of a stream where I watched a pro who was playing on his Diamond smurf, although I can't remember his name. He was jungle and this top lane Cho'Gath got upset at him and started to steal his buffs when they spawned, along with verbally harassing him, etc.
What's funny he is had no idea he was being watched by thousands of people and he was playing against a professional. It didn't matter, he still called him a scrub, noob, etc.
But this guy never fed into it. Because how can you? It's laughable that this Diamond player would be so wrong about one of his teammates. He just reported him at the end of the game and moved on to the next match. That's not to say that it doesn't happen, but I tend to notice they consider the chat to be a distraction and not worth sacrificing their play for.
Their punishment system seems very random with no real structure. The way it stands anyone can be punished at any time and often are.
Now, seeing as you answered my question with another question, I'll ask again: Give me examples of bans that weren't justified.
FreddytheFish2 votesI can think specifically of a stream where I watched a pro who was playing on his Diamond smurf, although I can't remember his name. He was jungle and this top lane Cho'Gath got upset at him and started to steal his buffs when they spawned, along with verbally harassing him, etc.
What's funny he is had no idea he was being watched by thousands of people and he was playing against a professional. It didn't matter, he still called him a scrub, noob, etc.
But this guy never fed into it. Because how can you? It's laughable that this Diamond player would be so wrong about one of his teammates. He just reported him at the end of the game and moved on to the next match. That's not to say that it doesn't happen, but I tend to notice they consider the chat to be a distraction and not worth sacrificing their play for.
Now, seeing as you answered my question with another question, I'll ask again: Give me examples of bans that weren't justified.
sure, you go first
Daen5 votesThe burden of proof is on the person trying to prove something, not disprove something. It's not our job to support your argument, you should be doing that yourself. If you think bans are unjustified you need to give us examples as to why you feel that way.
ModKnightsKemplar2 votesNever saw this. Your standards probably don't match the standards of the community. You should realize this by now, and adjust them accordingly.
FreddytheFish2 votesNever saw this. Your standards probably don't match the standards of the community. You should realize this by now, and adjust them accordingly.
Could be, I always thought it was better to treat the problem and not the symptom. Symptoms fade on their own but problems won't go away unless handled.
Punishing the ones who have the nerve to answer back instead of the ones instigating the harassment isn't going to work (my proof of this, has it worked yet? No: Has toxicity in game gone up every season? Yes) I am a good example of this right at this moment in fact. I have an account I use when I start getting bad teammates to get through the bad streak of them (it's always a streak of them) and on this account I do nothing but feed. Well I did nothing but feed while staying silent till I got the chat ban. After that I decided to add insults into the mix all game because why not if I'm chat restricted for being silent I might as well be a jerk. That account has trolled over 500 games while spamming insults at my teammates and except for the chat restrict has gone unpunished. This account which just got harassed and might have 3 to 4 games that could be considered a bit toxic just got a 14 day suspension. You really have to wonder why riot thinks talking back to the people viciously harassing you is over 100 times worse than being the one that always harasses people.
ModKnightsKemplar4 votesYou are the problem! This account is causing other people to flame and tilt! Stop being a jerk!
Be mature, or find a different game. Also, toxicity in my games is down. Perhaps that's because I don't treat others like crap.
Also, anyone who is slinging insults should be banned. If someone is trolling you, mute and report. If you talk back, you're no better.
That is all.
MacDthree4 votesEvery inch of me was like "oh my god. You did not get banned for no freaking reason... let me open this damned post and see what he's cryi - oh. oh....Oh. Touche."
Well done sir.......
t0psq2nyqm2 votesEvery inch of me was like "oh my god. You did not get banned for no freaking reason... let me open this damned post and see what he's cryi - oh. oh....Oh. Touche."
Well done sir....... I got 975 games for this. 20 minutes of our adc screaming at everyone on our team after "adc or feed" in champ select. Even riot rep stated i do not speak in a majority of my matches (80% and up i dont say a word) but for eventually defending myself this is what happened. The system is automated now and support cant do anything. Hey centuriation55,
Thanks for contacting us about your concerns and I'll try to help clear up why a chat restriction was placed on the account. While you do not talk in a majority of your games. You were chat restricted for the few games you did decide to chat in. As your chat logs look like this:
[20:01] centuriation55: i feel bad for u guys i gota say. i dont think the game took into account your skill levels before it did matchmaking [20:30] centuriation55: theres a difference between "i cant jungle" and "i dont know how to ward" [21:12] centuriation55: im the best player here...by far [21:27] centuriation55: dont tell me if i played a different role you would automatically not be the biggest scrub caitlyn in north america [22:00] centuriation55: if you want your opinion to count for something dont suck ass when u CALL AND PLAY adc. [23:39] centuriation55: blames me cus she refused to tell eveyrone she is incapable of playing the role she not only called but then picked [23:40] centuriation55: oooooook [23:53] centuriation55: cus the role i picked i played well. won my lane shut down katarina. this game is on you and ur lack of skill [23:54] centuriation55: not me [24:57] centuriation55: ur the crybaby upset cus i can play my role [24:57] centuriation55: and lane [25:02] centuriation55: noob
In this game you are arguing with the ADC all game since minute one. Nothing constructive comes out of arguing. All this is doing is frustrating the rest of the team and hurting the rest of the team. Remember that there are 3 other teammates in the game that want to win just as much as you do. When you choose to spend more time segueing with someone in the chat these players suffer just as much.
MacDthree1 votesWhy was this replied on my comment? this had nothing to do with what i said lol
Chaotic Reks4 votesat first i was like http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-hAHqF68Zyg4/UlShkX27zFI/AAAAAAAACQ4/qCkn27E8D2E/s320/giveup.gif
than i realized who it was https://33.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m43fenS4rJ1rqfhi2o1_250.gif
iLuma2 votesCan someone explain to me why Valkyrie Witch is not a Riot Board Moderator yet?
Deep Terror Nami3 votesBecause I'd use the ban hammer like I was playing whack-a-mole.
nerak232 votesAll you have to do Not to get banned is treat everyone with respect ! You Can stand up for yourself...I do it EVERY TIME someone is rude to anyone playing...I Never have been reported to my knowledge . I simply Do Not Respond like an ASS.... I say what is on my mind in simple easy remarks...'no need for that talk' . 'Not being nice right now' or such comments ..if they stop being rude I don't report if they continue after I asked nicely then I report ...
I find that 9 out of 10 times when someone is Toxic and I say such comments they stop and no need to report...I only send a report about 1 in 50 games..but I am inclined to send more now ...I have always felt Riot should clamp down on all forms of harassment, verbal abuse, racial comments and ect. ..
Most of all the things about this forum or LOL is that Any Talk of suicide ...Go Kill yourself and the such should be dealt with Most harshly....Any comments encouraging or suggesting it should have the Highest form of punishment .
For anyone reading this or my previous remarks I tempt Riot to go over my chat records..before game, during and after to see if I hold myself to the standard that I hold no one else to...no one needs to be as nice as me ...however No One has the Right to be an Ass.. on here or in game ...
Karen
Americium2 votesHi, lately I've been encountering an uptick of trolls coinciding with the end of the school year for many. It isn't a matter of if you encounter a troll, but when. Here's how I approach this:
Good luck. Happy Gaming.
nerak232 votesGood luck. Happy Gaming.
Nice post -- Happy gaming to you also ;)
Ih8ucuzurtoxic1 votesI think you're severely misunderstanding how bad RIOT's ban system is currently.
My games consist of "gg", "ty", "have a nice day" and yet I consistently get reported if our team loses. I currently have a 75 game restriction... why? I don't know. I put in a support ticket asking exactly this and all RIOT can tell me is that I "harassing your teammates to gank for you, complaining in chat, blaming your team for not following your call"
I truly don't know where this comes into play. If I ask my jg to gank and ping a few times cause I'm getting pushed under tower is that "harassing"? If I complain that Riot really needs to understand that basic math is that 3>2 and the game should have ended does that make me toxic when we're down 20+ kills? Does saying "hey you guys probably shouldn't have walked down mid 1 at a time into a 1v5" means I'm blaming them and why would that be a bad thing if they ARE to blame?
It's not so simple. There are outliers to any statistical system and inappropriate measures take throughout ANY justice system. At current there is NO rulelist, NO list of banned phrases, NO ability to appeal (because RIOT support specifically says they do not remove ANY chat restriction or ban) and no form for the community (because we've been under maintenance for months) to contribute to the selection process.
Sorry, but people like you need to get off their high horse and realize that free speech and communication on every level shouldn't be censored. I agree that there should be a penalty when people are horrible (and yes there's a great many people out there doing it) but to suggest that people aren't being banned improperly is just ignorant.
I've asked RIOT support to provide specific details as I cannot, and I'm certain they cannot come up with a good example, find anything in my chat logs that warrant 75 games restricted.
Check out one I got reported for which lead to a restriction: Ih8ucuzurtoxic: all good, it's bots. we can have a tea party at nexus and still win Ih8ucuzurtoxic: great play Ih8ucuzurtoxic: u2 Ih8ucuzurtoxic: damn minions (i died cuz I had a huge wave push mid inhib and couldn't run around them fast enough) Ih8ucuzurtoxic: great game Ih8ucuzurtoxic: fun times Ih8ucuzurtoxic: plz honor
If you can find out where that was an example of:
Cheat Flame Troll Leave
Please explain it to me, cause I don't fucking get it.
Deep Terror Nami3 votesI never implied that there are no outliers or mistakes in the system.
Ih8ucuzurtoxic1 votesTo me it seems like insinuated that anyone who got restricted or banned deserved it for doing one of the four things you mentioned. I think it's a tasteless joke made at the expense of people struggling with the system for whatever reason.
Just seems like you're up there on a high horse cause you can be.
Deep Terror Nami4 votesSorry you feel that way.
