When certain tank champions wants to build HP for reasons.......

BeatzBoyFTW·Oct 26, 2015·74 votes·4,975 views

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KaxiOct 26, 201539 votes

They did overdo Tahm's kit with HP on HP with HP and HP.

Then again, we also have Volibear and Mundo... I remember the days when Mundo was god-tier...

Aych PiiOct 26, 20152 votes

It's actually a designed weakness of Tahm, he's so dependent on HP for utility that you can limit his effectiveness by forcing him to build more armor/mr to mitigate your damage. If you pick, say, Brand or Vayne you can punish him.

That aside, HP only affects two of his abilities- E and R.

Jeddy017Oct 26, 201526 votes

Actually because of the R passive,HP affects his Q & W as well as his basic attack.

iamthegoatofwarOct 26, 20157 votes

how about this after level 6 LITERALLY every single damage dealing thing he does scales with hp.

Jeddy017Oct 26, 201513 votes

........................That's what I said.

iamthegoatofwarOct 26, 20155 votes

simplifying it for the others.

Aych PiiOct 27, 20152 votes

Yes, I'm aware. But that should all be considered his R. It is, for all intents and purposes, his ultimate ability. And it's quite a good one. I think the active part comes secondary.

aítchOct 27, 20151 votes

dude... Tahm= Gromp. They already nerfed gromp for a reason....

They Misclicked

The EllimiistOct 26, 20152 votes

Sunfire/Omen/Visage all exist. Not like people are going 5 warmogs/boots

Aych PiiOct 27, 20152 votes

Well, yeah. When Tahm stacks resistances his ultimate passive still has some effect, just not quite the same as if you were building full health.

Noam BraumskyOct 27, 20151 votes

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It's actually a designed weakness of Tahm, he's so dependent on HP for utility that you can limit his effectiveness by forcing him to build more armor/mr to mitigate your damage. If you pick, say, Brand or Vayne you can punish him.

That aside, HP only affects two of his abilities- E and R.

That's why I use malz so much nowadays :D

KarbuncleOct 27, 20152 votes

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It's actually a designed weakness of Tahm, he's so dependent on HP for utility that you can limit his effectiveness by forcing him to build more armor/mr to mitigate your damage. If you pick, say, Brand or Vayne you can punish him.

That aside, HP only affects two of his abilities- E and R.

His R passive gives the bonus damage on abilities and autoattacks

Aych PiiOct 27, 20151 votes

You're a little late to the party. Yes, it does, but it's still his R. One scaling. The reason it's so good is because it's his ultimate.

AnidanOct 26, 20158 votes

"Just remember, there will come a time where Mundo is unkillable. Your job as a top laner is to delay this as long as possible." - Forgotten top lane main.

Mundo truly went where he pleased during those days.

charcharmunroOct 26, 20154 votes

Mundo has, by far, the most damage taken out of any champion in any role. He STILL goes where he pleases. I recall, in ARAM, I was on half-health as Mundo, and I saw they had somebody who was low enough that I could probably just walk over and cleave them a bit to take 'em out, so I ulted and just... Walked through their frontline, almost all the way to their nexus, killed them, I think I even got a double kill because another low-health target showed up and just walked back, tanking all the tower shots. My team-mates were like "WHAT WAS THAT" because I kept surviving on like a sliver of health until I just returned, with about a third of my health remaining.

Axis the DragonOct 27, 20154 votes

On the flipside, though, nearly any tank in ARAM that's decently ahead with item 3083 and item 3065 can realistically run through the enemy frontline to get all the way to the backline. Apart from Mundo, Garen is also notorious for this (especially when he's not the only tank).

LordForrestOct 27, 20151 votes

Omg, the nostalgia.

XxxLumberJackxxXOct 27, 20151 votes

Mundo is fairly strong after his touch ups a patch or two ago. I think the touch ups were a band aid and insult to mundo players, but the AA reset is surprisingly helpful

BakedLotionOct 27, 20151 votes

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They did overdo Tahm's kit with HP on HP with HP and HP.

Then again, we also have Volibear and Mundo... I remember the days when Mundo was god-tier...

But mundo's only hp scaling is his passive and ult, which are just heals, and can easily be fucked over by morello and ignite, both popular items/spells. and his E scales off % hp so it technically doesn't count as he can gain the same amount whether or not he has more hp.

Meanwhile Tahm gains shields/heals/insane damage on ult. (Who's idea was it to give him 8% max hp dmg anyways? That's fucking insane. A warmogs alone can give like 75 dmg...) On top of already overturned numbers and cc.

My Waifu VanillaOct 28, 20151 votes

Except Mundo E also scales with health now and can do upwards of 400-500 bonus damage on that auto reset. Cleavers also do 22% current health iirc which is respectable for a "free" spell. Does Mundo do a lot of damage by just building tank? Yes. Is it worth picking him over Tahm? No, but that is more or less Tahm's fault for having hard CC to go with his damage and a less "situational" second health bar since it does not lose to ignite but doesn't last as long.

BakedLotionOct 28, 20151 votes

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Except Mundo E also scales with health now and can do upwards of 400-500 bonus damage on that auto reset. Cleavers also do 22% current health iirc which is respectable for a "free" spell. Does Mundo do a lot of damage by just building tank? Yes. Is it worth picking him over Tahm? No, but that is more or less Tahm's fault for having hard CC to go with his damage and a less "situational" second health bar since it does not lose to ignite but doesn't last as long.

To do 400-500 bonus damage he'd need 8k-10k hp. That's alot of hp. Did you even do math before you posted or thought about what you were gonna say? A realistic number is 100-200

My Waifu VanillaOct 28, 20151 votes

I do. His E has a base of 100 that also goes up based on his missing health aswell makes the likelihood of him getting a 400 bonus auto attack highly plausible.

RottedApplesOct 27, 20151 votes

mundo may not be unkillable but with the buff they did to him he's pretty strong now.

ErdamonOct 26, 201525 votes

Vayne item 3153 Keep going

Only Play DariusOct 26, 20152 votes

Also Kindred

DoofsOct 27, 20151 votes

Also the next champion that comes out.

Only Play DariusOct 27, 20152 votes

Sad but almost certainly_t_ true

Lost ROct 26, 201518 votes

Volibear Hope your ignite's not on cooldown...

BlunterMonkOct 26, 201517 votes

Zac ? All you need is HP. item 3083

QuortOct 26, 201516 votes

I dunno. It feels like that build is missing something... Oh yea! item 3361

HighH1Oct 27, 20152 votes

Sion Garen Singed DrMundo Nautilus TahmKench

Axis the DragonOct 27, 20152 votes

I still really like item 3027 item 3116 item 3151 on Singed - as long as you're not the only tank, that is. xD

DoofsOct 27, 20151 votes

Singed Is like Ryze in the fact that for damage you shouldn't build straight damage but instead mana items. item 3003 and item 3027 is really all you need to build with Singed thanks to his passive HP, but still getting a ton of AP thanks to item 3048 .

As a Singed main myself I tend to like a item 3027 item 3040 item 3009 item 3742 item 3116 item 3151 as well.

Axis the DragonOct 27, 20151 votes

Ehh Ryze now actually gets a lot less tank items and a lot more AP (Void Staff in particular is super common item on him).

That kind of build on Singed I find is good as long as you're not the only tank on the team. If your team is relying on only you to soak damage (which shouldn't happen, but let's say, hypothetically) than something like item 3111 item 3027 item 3110 item 3102 item 3075 / Situational is usually what I see (last item is a tossup between stuff like item 3116 item 3151 item 3190 item 3742 item 3026 item 3143 item 3083 and even item 3023 (yes I've seen Twin Shadows used to some success)

My Waifu VanillaOct 28, 20152 votes

Twin shadows is a fairly good item since it DOES give a good amount of AP for what it is but is normally outclassed by the cdr duo of morello/grail in some cases. I still remember that weird kennen build of bork+twin shadows into hourglass.

charcharmunroOct 28, 20151 votes

Building RoA/Tear on Singed is actually rather ineffective, I find. His passive is pretty useless, so double Doran's Rings tends to be far more useful in lane so you deal just that bit more damage, as well as giving you decent mana sustain if you're careful.

charcharmunroOct 26, 201514 votes

Sion "Building HP? Funny."

MyTeamIsAwsomeOct 26, 20154 votes

http://img04.deviantart.net/7e7b/i/2015/177/0/4/mob_boss_tahm_kench_by_amberram-d8yt09c.png Deal with it

Mecha MaIphiteOct 26, 20153 votes

why is shen a bird

HighH1Oct 27, 20158 votes

Because he can fly away to a far away place then crap on your team just like like real birds

Monkey D LuffyOct 27, 20153 votes

Tahm is so broken.

551202Oct 27, 20152 votes

AND ANOTHER QQ THREAD ABOUT TOO "OP"...

BeatzBoyFTWOct 27, 201512 votes

And yet another guy who thinks he's fun at parties.

DengedenOct 27, 20152 votes

TahmKench : This health scaling does nothing for me pre-6 You: But still... : Furthermore, since I'm a dedicated support (in competitive), the only health items I'll be seeing are item 2049 , item 3401 and I guess item 3190 if I'm lucky. You: Look, you have this kit that other champions don't have, for some reason, and that really ticks us off. TahmKench : Heck, even when I'm not supporting, item 3111 item 3110 are essentially core items. If I face a non crit ADC, I'll need to build item 3075 too. Come late game, I'll probably need item 3026 too, unless I'm insanely fed. You: You do a lot of damage to squishies and that's not fair. : Oh sure like getting near a carry as a (beefy) jungler/top laner doesn't spell death for them in most cases. And did you forget that any damage falls off late game if it isn't enforced by magic/armor pen?

EmbertineOct 27, 20151 votes

item 3068 item 3143 item 3083 item 1306 item 3102 item 3065 All together make him a very tanky champion that deals good damage thanks to his ult's passive.

DengedenOct 27, 20151 votes

Swifties aren't viable, neither is combining Banshee's with Visage. You need max CDR on Tahm, otherwise you're screwed if you can't execute your combo perfectly.

ARequestOfDeathOct 29, 20151 votes

swiftness isn't viable!!!!!!!!!!!!!!? but how are mobis considered viable oh sure they provide movespeed but when your running from a fight they are useless unlike swiftness which is meant for anti kiting and also good at chasing