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Solari Fortune7 votes

item 3070 Sona

AdanChristo2 votes

sona! she needs BUFFS!

Hatless Casual1 votes

Every. Freaking. Time.

I guess my team hates strong peels and heals.....

A Miss Fortune5 votes

Me every game..

I'm actually fine with Supports building damage, but they shouldn't go glass cannon. Stuff like Talisman, Frozen, Righteous, Locket, etc can all be bought if the Top or Jungler isn't buying before damage.

Pew Pew Lasers3 votes

Not building damage on a support cripples their ability support.

DazedOnlooker1 votes

Yes because more damage hiders the team's chance at victory. I have seen the light ..................

JAGMAGZ1 votes

what about annie support they way i heard it explained is you run in as fast as you can stun their entire team with tibbers then you die but so does their team

(ive built both fuck no damage annie support sigh stone then straight ap)

Pew Pew Lasers1 votes

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what about annie support they way i heard it explained is you run in as fast as you can stun their entire team with tibbers then you die but so does their team

(ive built both fuck no damage annie support sigh stone then straight ap)

There are like a dozen 80ap+ items with 5%+ movement speed on them. Its ridiculous. AP shouldn't be that mobile.

insaiyanbacca1 votes

im sorry what was that? i couldnt hear you over all the tank supports that dont build damage

Kryogen3 votes

Just help me ward and you can build whatever you want. Sadly its more common to see supports that go full damage and no one even upgrades trinkets... <_<

#bronzelife

ham døg1 votes

The thing is, people don't know what upgrading trinkets means, while most think its just making item 3362 anditem 3361. While really, its changing your trinket. Most supports change it to a sweeper but one is not enough. I usually get a sweeper as a mid laner, get a vision trinket as a top laner, and get a scrying orb as adc or sweeper as support, while jungling i get a sweeper too. You need wards, but you need to clear the enemy's wards too. and scrying orb is like a free summoner spell, free vision and keeping vision for a couple of seconds? Thats awesome! item 3363 item 3364 item 3362 item 3361

Kitty Darkstar1 votes

I switch to red trinket as soon as I finish sightstone, but until that I use yellow. Never found a use for blue, could you maybe help with that?

kile1473 votes

Blue is best on marksmen who cannot afford to lose vision when someone steps into a bush because of their auto attack reliance, and because it lets you check a bush from further away than a ward would. Trying to ward a bush that an enemy is in as a marksmen is basically suicide, so blue trinket lets you check it from a safe distance.

Kitty Darkstar1 votes

I never play marksmen, so lol Guess I don't need it, but it's nice to know about it.

kile1471 votes

Also good for anyone else who cannot afford to facecheck a bush and doesn't have skills to do it for them

ham døg1 votes

Don't forget dragon control...

villyninja2 votes

As a toplaner, i will have to agree. Top/jungle/supp have to ward for the team. Then mid takes ememy for money, supp kill enemy wards for utility. Thats what most LCS players do too.

DazedOnlooker2 votes

Yup that GIF is the most accurate i have ever seen,,,,

What i did as a 1st time Sona.

Delioth2 votes

Psh, 2 tank items into Luden's Echo on Shen or Nautilus. You start tickling then. Naut can actually 1v1 fed carries with tank+Echo. Oh and did I mention Shen has a stupid high AP ratio on his ult? It's great that a 1 AP item shen gives something along the lines of 800 hp shield on rank 2 ultimate.

SolusInCadere2 votes

Honestly, whether I build damage or not depends on my champion. Braum and the like don't need damage items because they have no utility that scales with standard damage scaling. But champions like Lux have utility scaling with AP, meaning they can get away with things like item 3504

Stereo Dreamer2 votes

summoner 14 Brandsummoner 14

Lanayurian1 votes

The only thing he has as damage is that mix tape.

CasterGilgamesh2 votes

no one really pays attention to what i build Soraka its like im just a force of nature healing people while silencing the infidels!

Enchanté1 votes

Sona without damage items still hurts, so I'd say you'd rather buy something else like ardent censer, that would help your adc a lot.

But there are certain champions that's actually better if you build AP, for example Janna , I'd rush ardent censer, sigh stone, and talisman, then I'd go straight AP. Because it powers Janna's shield as well as her AoE heal. And Lux, rush sigh stone and frostfang, then build AP. I'm in a loosing game one day and I turn down a whole teamfight with my ult. It was nice

macromite1 votes

little tip, stop buying ardent censer, its trash tier. if you want something to help your adc, get that zeke's thing

Enchanté1 votes

An early attack speed when they've got only IE would be nice. Plus, Zeke's give you AD and lifesteal. I guess 7% from a dorans blade and +50 AD from Janna's shield is enough. Compared to attack speed, I'd say to get ardent first, and Zeke's around 4th or 5th item, mid to late game. Why isnt there a lot of people using ardent censer? because no one actually ever tried it. They just said ou it sucks now I don't even want to buy it anymore its trash. But I've win bot lane a lot and I always get ardent censer.

macromite1 votes

the first item you should be trying to rush is pretty much always a sightstone or your support item, you don't have enough gold early to get the ardent unless you're skipping something, and as the game goes on the ardent becomes worse and worse to get, because the stats are practically irrelevant. its a card balanced around its passive, but the passive isn't worth the cost, if it was a much cheaper item, it would be useful, but it's not. I know the argument, but I've tried harder than most trying to figure out how to make ardent work, it just isn't going to. i you're winning lanes now, you'll win them harder without the ardent censer, for right now you're simply handicapping yourself.

NinjaToad992 votes

Ardent Censer is fantasic on Janna. You can give your ADC a free BF sword with bonus attack speed and magic damage. Even when they are fully built it still ups their damage significantly.

macromite1 votes

ardent is worse on janna in comparison to its closest counterparts, morello's and mikaels. ardent's is far worse than mikaels in defensive capacity, but it does give a better offensive stance, however, in comparison to morellos ardent is literally the trash that I called it, morellos casts 200 more total gold, which if you're getting ardent you should be able to get easily, because ardent is an aggressive buy, but morello gives more ap, cdr, and an arguably better passive that reduces the sustain that the enemy target has. honestly, there are niche points where ardents is a bit better, and those points can include janna, but that isn't something that happens every game.

Enchanté2 votes

bro do you even play Janna. I dont think so. Every Janna player knows ardent is necessary and it's even in the recommended build. The fact that you'd like morellos better on Janna, its just wrong. Why would you buy morellos on Janna? it only gives grevious wounds, and you'd prefer giving grev. wounds to enemies instead of shielding your adc with bonus AD, atk speed and bonus magic damage? 1 thing vs 4 things bby

macromite1 votes

explain why ardents is only built in 10% of games played as janna. don't fight me, I do the research, and I know a lot of good players.

recommended is trash, ignore these items most the time unless your new, even my level 15 friend understands this.

morellos increases your shields ad and gives it more uptime.

If you aren't smart enough to realize this after I wrote in the stats, you shouldn't even speak.

RusselChambers1 votes

I prefer to buy Mejai's on Janna and have that be all the AP I need, because Janna shouldn't die very often, if at all, with the bit of bonus AP to boost her movement and shield. Tends to help when either a bit behind or far ahead, but a very situational thing imho

Enchanté2 votes

No idea if it's just me, because every single time I play as Janna the enemy team prefers to focus me instead of the carries. I lol'd every time we won C:

So yeah I never bought mejais...

9baksQuJhb1 votes

But I like 1v3ing... Annie

Lugg1 votes

That was a perfect gif. Well done.

EndlessSorcerer1 votes

Does the support have Sightstone and Oracle's Lens (or at bare minimum Greater Stealth Totem)?

If so, they can build whatever they think will help us win the most.

SH Azykan1 votes

item 3050 item 3060 item 3116 item 3069 item 2045 item 1314 item 3364 Annie Brand Fiddlesticks Karma Lulu Morgana Sona Soraka Veigar

All the damage and utility you could ever want as support with this build :D

Miku Append1 votes

Nah. Sona item 3092 item 3100 item 3048 item 3089 item 1314 item 3285 item 3361 Go hard or go home kid.

darapier171 votes

what about spirit visage for heals? would suggest mabye item 3092 item 2045 item 3065 item 3089 item 1314 item 3116 item 3342/item 3341

ƒoes1 votes

I go AP Tank Nautilus when I support, and because there's a weird animation glitch with his basic attacks, I accidentally stole 12 kills :L

Only Play Darius1 votes

Lux Zyra Velkoz

gubigubi1 votes

Annie Sona Karma are frequent offenders as well lol

darapier171 votes

SONA NEEDS AP FOR HEALS

gubigubi1 votes

Heals?! No need for heals when the things doing the damage are dead!

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