Is this what bronze looks like

Gentleman Gems·May 5, 2015·2 votes·2,417 views

Because I feel like this

here's the game

http://matchhistory.na.leagueoflegends.com/en/#match-details/NA1/1758131067/200859411?tab=stats

37 Comments

Laughing FishMay 5, 20155 votes

Your team had a bad game. It's alright, it happens. The important thing to do is learn from the experience, and than move on.

Gentleman GemsMay 5, 20151 votes

thanks, we need a emotional gif to show the feels in this comment (your the master and know a lot, so you do it... Please)

Laughing FishMay 5, 20152 votes

https://bleedinginkinc.files.wordpress.com/2015/02/keep-moving-forward.gif

Bisexual KindredMay 5, 20153 votes

https://31.media.tumblr.com/d5da0e81ae4716b9013a1606bfdd3355/tumblr_n1qdnzJoHv1rqfhi2o1_500.gif Hehe

Gentleman GemsMay 5, 20151 votes

OMG THE FEEL GIFS OP, I have let it go since then I'm just waiting for my computer to be fixed. Thanx for the gif support so hears my attempt at a gif response

http://wifflegif.com/gifs/499316-we-are-the-champions-aggressive-singing-gif

SEKAIMay 5, 20154 votes

There is always next game boya!

https://data.archive.moe/board/a/image/1349/71/1349716494161.gif

Gentleman GemsMay 5, 20151 votes

Is that a Hentai gif!? (it's the eye thing)

Lao Fu the TigerMay 5, 20152 votes

Looks like you and your team fed the heck out of the enemy team. I'm failing to see what the complaint is about.

Gentleman GemsMay 5, 20151 votes

It was the Nauses first, fallowed by me by failing to gank, and everything fell from their. I know What i did wrong but it was so horrible. I feel like it was a bronze game preview and just need a seconds opinion. Not a complaint.

Lao Fu the TigerMay 5, 20152 votes

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It was the Nauses first, fallowed by me by failing to gank, and everything fell from their. I know What i did wrong but it was so horrible. I feel like it was a bronze game preview and just need a seconds opinion. Not a complaint.

Ah I see. I misread your original title. Well, judging by the fact of your funky team comp and the fact Nasus had only a Phage at 20 minutes, I can indeed confirm that this is, in fact, a bronze game.

EDIT: To clarify a bit, it's generally not QUITE this bad, but yes, games in low elo definitely CAN sometimes be this bad.

GwellaouenMay 5, 20152 votes

It's because that can happen a lot no ?

Yesterday, I was Nami and my team got fed by the enemy team. They surrender at 22 I think. Both kda look the same too.

Celio Hogane HDMay 5, 20152 votes

oh god the minion farm! THE NIGHTMARES!!

Gentleman GemsMay 5, 20151 votes

yes, it was a bad day for my confidence

S H A Y C 0May 5, 20152 votes

I think the problem started when you tried to build AP Udyr...and it all just fell apart from there.

wait youre only level 23? ok, lol! its all good man, i wouldnt even worry about bronze right now! You just focus on learning the game and having fun.

Gentleman GemsMay 5, 20151 votes

In an AP filled team your right, but in general AP Udyr is not that bad

S H A Y C 0May 5, 20151 votes

udyr is an auto attack champion...your auto attacks are based on your attack damage, you want AD if you want udyr to do stuff.

Gentleman GemsMay 5, 20151 votes

Not sure, look at the statistics form this game

Mostly the Damage to Champions

http://matchhistory.na.leagueoflegends.com/en/#match-details/NA1/1745462004/200859411?tab=stats

S H A Y C 0May 5, 20151 votes

well you built him ap, and maxed phoenix stance, and didnt even get tiger until lvl 8 which tells me your main damage was in pheonix stance..which makes sense if you are ap udyr. But his phoenix stance is the only spell that does damage scaling of ap.

if you build AD udyr, all of your stances will be doing meaningful damage. The pros seem to be favoring full tank udyr right now, but we are not talking about a pro build, we are talking about what does more damage. we have to look at the ratios

Phoenix:

Persistent Effect: Burns enemies in front of Udyr on his first basic attack and every third attack after, dealing 40/80/120/160/200 (+45% Ability Power) magic damage. Activation: Unleashes pulsing waves of fire, dealing 15/25/35/45/55 (+25% Ability Power) magic damage each second to nearby enemies for 5 seconds.

45% ap scaling

Persistent Effect: Basic attacks deal 15% Attack Damage bonus physical damage, and Udyr will perform a Tiger Strike with his first basic attack, dealing bonus 30/80/130/180/230 (+120/130/140/150/160% Attack Damage) physical damage over 2 seconds. Activation: Increases Attack Speed by 30/40/50/60/70% for 5 seconds.

all day 15% bonus ad damage and up to 160% AD scaling on activation.

his other two stances are utility and defensive stances that will not get any damage from ap, but since you will be auto attacking in those stances anyway, AD is the only way to make any of that damage meaningful.

so all 4 abilities taking advantage of AD in some way, or two abilities using ap and only one doing any damage.

Gentleman GemsMay 5, 20151 votes

Yes I know what your saying, but turtle stance also gives a shield based on your AP. AD Udyr is a great assassin for fast constant damage, AP Udyr can tank well, or have a quick power dive potential and large burst damage. At this point it is a preference of play style but I think I got point across, right?

S H A Y C 0May 5, 20151 votes

how many games have you played with ap udyr?

Gentleman GemsMay 5, 20151 votes

A lot, I use the build almost every time I play him

Gentleman GemsMay 5, 20151 votes

Also edit for repetitive constant damage

S H A Y C 0May 5, 20151 votes

since i cant see your match history(lolking and op.gg only show 10 total matches for you and 2 on udyr) what is your win rate in pvp with ap udyr?

Gentleman GemsMay 5, 20151 votes

1/2 (9/18) so far

S H A Y C 0May 5, 20151 votes

thats better than i expected. If its working i suppose go ahead and keep doing it, but i encourage you to experiment with a tanky AD udyr and see which you like better.

Gentleman GemsMay 5, 20151 votes

Thanks, next time League is available for me I'll try it. Ps. you got a build for that cuz if not I'm going to experimental and it might be pretty.

S H A Y C 0May 5, 20152 votes

Damage + Resistance

item 3718 Devourer + item 3006 + item 3143 + item 3074 + item 3035 OR item 3071 + item 3065

Tank + Damage

item 3717 Cinderhulk + item 3153 + item 3143 + item 3065 + item 3111 + item 3071 OR item 3074

You can start phoenix stance still, but get tiger before lvl 8 and probably max it first for high damage and remember to switch to bear for stun and back to tiger for the melts. use the others as you see fit, but the stun is key.

Gentleman GemsMay 5, 20151 votes

Ok, tnks for the help

TyrenMay 5, 20151 votes

I get chilling smite w/ cinderhulk , item 3078 item 3009 item 3110 then defensive items based on the enemy teams damage sources. I also do R>W>E and a point in Q when we are taking towers. That works for me, maybe give it a shot some time.

Sinister SnailMay 5, 20151 votes

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udyr is an auto attack champion...your auto attacks are based on your attack damage, you want AD if you want udyr to do stuff.

What does scale on AP?

S H A Y C 0May 5, 20151 votes

certain abilities. auto attacks scale universally on ad, you have to look at the champions abilities to find out what they scale on. Most champions have some mix of ad and ap scaling, but you have to look at the ratio's and figure out what will give you the most damage output or how you are going to play them...some champions can be played both ways, but usually has one that is far superior.

Corki for example is a great hybrid damage champion that can go ap or ad, but AD seems to be the far superior build with a tiny toe in AP with trinity force and sorcerer shoes

Sinister SnailMay 5, 20151 votes

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certain abilities. auto attacks scale universally on ad, you have to look at the champions abilities to find out what they scale on. Most champions have some mix of ad and ap scaling, but you have to look at the ratio's and figure out what will give you the most damage output or how you are going to play them...some champions can be played both ways, but usually has one that is far superior.

Corki for example is a great hybrid damage champion that can go ap or ad, but AD seems to be the far superior build with a tiny toe in AP with trinity force and sorcerer shoes

Oh lol I know what AP is, I should have been more specific: I don't know what AP udyr would try to scale off of.

S H A Y C 0May 6, 20151 votes

oh, lol! just his turtle shield, and aoe on phoenix stance :-\