When people post "Why they hate LoL and will never come back" on the LoL Boards

Gentleman Gems·May 8, 2015·8 votes·1,350 views

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SEKAIMay 8, 20151 votes

Gentleman GemsMay 8, 20151 votes

dude, why would anyone post their hate for League of Legends on the League of Legends Boards and say their not coming back. It's like a child having a temper tantrum because he did not get what he wanted and saying "I'm going to run away."

LifeCyclesTWAMay 8, 20151 votes

Either 1) Because they are an attention whore or 2) They have been playing the game for over 5 years and are sick of the direction Riot has been going with the reworks.

Gentleman GemsMay 8, 20151 votes

I do see that but the one that set me off contained a large amount of woe is me, look at the toxicity toxicity, a slight mention on wanting a new map mode, and more woe is me on the toxicity. Complaints are OK but that post screamed of Attention Whore. I knew this post would not be liked so when the down votes began I just decided to open the flood gates http://stream1.gifsoup.com/view6/4098973/rain-downvote-o.gif

Yandere CarryMay 8, 20152 votes

reworks? Clearly people are only allowed to have problems with the reworks, the reworks that made all these reworked champs more dynamic, and much more easily balanced :^)

http://i.imgur.com/nu4pWX5.gif

LifeCyclesTWAMay 8, 20152 votes

The direction of the reworks. I feel as though some champions, like Ashe, are being changed for the sake of change.

She is actually a top tier ADC right now, this is the best spot she has been in in a long time, and now they are reworking her? That doesn't make sense. Also, she is a classic champion, how about all the veterans that play her? Screw them, make them relearn her? I hope the changes aren't too drastic because as stated she is currently in the best spot she has been in since like season 1.

Yandere CarryMay 8, 20152 votes

she isn't top tier. she sucks tbh

LifeCyclesTWAMay 8, 20152 votes

Uhh, are you a troll?

Aight, let me try to prove to you why you are wrong because I am an egotistic asshole.

Ashe [Tier 1 ADC] - With her rework coming up soon, it's interesting to note that she's actually doing very well in solo queue. With nerfs on both Jinx and Graves (mostly Graves), the danger of her getting instantly burst down is lower than ever, allowing her strong poke damage to be fully realized in lane.

That is from Nerfplz.lol

Also, Ashe is one of the only 2 ADCs in the game that has the capability to initiate a teamfight. This is awesome, especially in solo queue, when you can't always trust your teammates to do their jobs.

Ashe also has the ability to show the map. Although she lacks mobility, with bottom lane properly warded and with good usage or her hawk she shouldn't ever be getting ganked successfully.

Ashe has beastly poke.

Ashe slows/kites like a boss.

Hopefully, with this rework, Ashe will stll have all the same strengths only it will be more fluid.

ZombeezyJeezyMay 8, 20151 votes

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Ashe has beastly poke.

Ashe slows/kites like a boss.

Hopefully, with this rework, Ashe will stll have all the same strengths only it will be more fluid.

Now I'm wondering if you even read up on the rework at all because her core kit remains fully intact - if anything her core kit is getting a HUGE boost.

Permaslow on ALL autoattacks after the first - huge Attack Speed burst - free AD steroid just from having crit (direct damage no "chance" just straight extra damage scaling with crit) AND her E has 2 charges and is global - her ult and W remain relatively unchanged (some minor number tweaks and that's about it).

LifeCyclesTWAMay 8, 20151 votes

Okay, for fuck sake. What I said was in response to "Tang Bohu" saying that Ashe sucks.

Ashe does not suck, Ashe is a top tier ADC in this game that does not need to be reworked as she is in a great spot right now, in fact this is the best she has been in in years. Riot is just changing her for the sake of changing her. AKA: They just feel like it. No other reason. I do not like they are just changing a classic champion just for the fuck of it, especially since she is well-balanced and in a great spot.

That said, the rework seems solid, I don't know if I can trust the balance team to implement it properly. She'll either be too strong or too weak upon release. Knowing Riot, they will then nerf her in the wrong ways and buff her in the wrong ways for a few patches and we may eventually wind up with a champion that is almost as balanced as the Ashe we have now.

She doesn't need a HUGE BOOST because she is already TOP TIER as it is. A utility carry doesn't need the killing power of a hyper-carry like Jinx or Vayne to be viable.

Yandere CarryMay 8, 20151 votes

Alright, here's an even better appeal to authority...

"Thoughts on Ashe?" -Random Player

"Shit"- EU LCS Spring Split MVP

If you weren't aware the MVP this split in EU was SK Gaming's ADC, FORG1VEN. This is his opinion on Ashe as an adc despite his want to use her competitively.

EDIT: She doesn't just lack mobility, she also lacks damage. As for Engage ADCs Varus has AoE CC and Sivir is THE ADC people pick if they want engage.

LifeCyclesTWAMay 8, 20151 votes

Yeah, because pro's know everything. Did you know that these "pros" that you speak of get most of their ideas from us? Did you know that these "pros" that you worship used to build Riven like a bruiser? Like, Bloodthirster + Warmogs/Frozen Mallet? I have gameplay footage of the ultimate pro HotShotGG grabbing 2 Doran's Blades and a Warmog's first before building into a Youmuu's. Yeah, people used to think Riven sucked when she was released for the longest time until some noob assholes played her full AD. Now here we are.

How about you come up with your own reasons and opinions as to why Ashe is bad instead of taking someone else's. It makes you seem like you are sheep and incapable of thinking for yourself. We all know she lacks mobility, what else do you got?

Yandere CarryMay 8, 20151 votes

did you know that nerfplz.lol is a bunch of people that AREN'T good enough to make it to that level. The fact is you are using a even weaker source to back up your claim.

She has shorter range than other hyper carries. She has no mobility. She has no damage.

EDIT:

How about you come up with your own reasons and opinions as to why Ashe is bad instead of taking someone else's

You literally did the thing you are berating me for.

LifeCyclesTWAMay 8, 20151 votes

I also said

Also, Ashe is one of the only 2 ADCs in the game that has the capability to initiate a teamfight. This is awesome, especially in solo queue, when you can't always trust your teammates to do their jobs.

Ashe also has the ability to show the map. Although she lacks mobility, with bottom lane properly warded and with good usage or her hawk she shouldn't ever be getting ganked successfully.

Ashe has beastly poke.

Ashe slows/kites like a boss.

My own words to show I know what I am talking about.

You said "She has shorter range than other hyper carries."

She isn't a fuckin hyper carry, she is an attack damage utility carry. That is why she has more UTILITY (slows, vision, reliable hard CC) than any other ADC in the game. Lets compare Ashe's range to the 3 hyper carries in this game. (a hyper carry is someone who has EXTREME levels of late game potential)

Ashe: 600 range Vayne: 550 range Jinx: 525 range, 600 @ rank 1 Q, 700 @ max rank Q. Nasus: 125 range <--- Added him just because you said she has shorter range than other hyper carries lol.

Huh, seems the only hyper carry that outranges Ashe is Jinx. How about other top tier ADCs though?

Graves: 525 Draven: 550 Lucian: 500 Caitlyn: 650 Varus: 575

Okay, amongst all the viable ADCs Ashe has the 2nd highest level 1 range and the third highest level 18 range.

You said "She has no mobility"

Okay, you are right. Neither does Draven or Jinx, both also considered top tier ADCs.

You said "She has no damage"

She has arguably the best poke out of all the ADCs in lane, she has the best gold generation out of all the ADCs in lane (they are taking this away in her rework though), and she has the best base attack speed out of all the ADCs by far in most cases, and she is one of only 2 ADCs with a stun.

Proof:

Base Attack Speed stats (+levels 1-18)

Ashe: 0.658 (+0% – 68.0%) Graves: 0.625 (+0% – 49.3%) Draven: 0.679 (+0% – 45.9%) Lucian: 0.638 (+0% – 56.1%) Caitlyn: 0.625 (+0% – 68.0%) Jinx: 0.625 (+0% – 17.0%) <------ Check out that shitty number. Varus: 0.658 (+0% – 51.0%)

So yes, Ashe actually has good damage. Not the best, but damn good. She scales the best out of all the ADCs with leveling as you see from the numbers above. And AGAIN she is one of only 2 ADCs with a stun. So please go back to watching LCS or whatever it is that keeps you from actually playing the game

Yandere CarryMay 8, 20151 votes

I can tell you don't know what you're talking about. You included Varus in "Top tier ADCs"

When comparing ADC ranges, Ashe is outranged by Tristana, Cait, Jinx, Kog, and even Twitch when his ult is up.

Why this matters? Because aside from Tristana they are all immobile ADCs. The reason I compared her to them is that despite having shorter range, she is on the higher-end of attack range. What does she lack that they have? Damage. She just doesn't deal the damage that other adcs do. This isn't restricted to the long range adcs. In a fight against other adcs she would output as much damage.

While I'm aware she is "utility oriented." That's cool and all, but her main job as an Attack DAMAGE Carry is to deal DAMAGE. She isn't as good at dealing dps as other carries are.

This is starting to delve into why she isn't top tier and less about her rework/strength as an ADC overall. She provides CC. You don't really need a lot of cc from your ADC. When you pick an ADC it's to kill things. You can get slows and stuns from everyone else on your team. Utility ADCs that are played.... Sivir. Why? It's because the thing she provides you don't really get from other champions.

You seem really salty, and I want you to know this isn't me attacking you as a person. I don't worship the LCS, and I don't really think you're an idiot. I think you are misinformed and not thinking clearly because you're angry. There's no need to get defensive about Ashe. I like her as a champion, but I just think she is a weak pick.

...And why don't you make it to lvl 30 before you start critiquing everyone about what's competitively strong.

LifeCyclesTWAMay 9, 20151 votes

I have 4 accounts and don't use my main account to comment. I have been playing since February 2010, before Season 1 even started. I was around when Ashe was considered the best ADC in the game. You on the other hand are probably some scrub that just started playing the game around s3.

Now look, you completely underestimate the utility Ashe provides, which is cool. I included Varus in my list because he is the one other ADC aside from Ashe that has hard CC. No, I do not include Cait or Jinx traps.

Ashe can kite people for days with her infinite slow, she stuns (which is amazing in solo queue, its nice being able to play an ADC that can also initiate/counter-initiate) and she has the global hawk. She provides a ton to her team that other ADCs don't and may or may not be a better pick for your team based on team composition. There is no 1 ADC that is the best in all situations. Not even Kalista who I left off the list, but also has less range than Ashe (550), and people love complaining about her.

When it comes down to it, a well protected person rocking BotRK, IE, PD, LW, and Zerkers is going to wreck in a teamfight regardless of their abilities. Ashe is damn hard to catch off guard and if you do try to kill her you better be damn sticky because she will kite the shit out of you. She is a great ADC, people like you just don't value utility anymore. That is why we are being handed out free wards now in season 5.

Gentleman GemsMay 8, 20151 votes

Well I can already see the down vote spiral so... http://makeameme.org/media/created/DOWNVOTE-THIS-POST.jpg

Yandere CarryMay 8, 20151 votes

well said