When your team complains the enemy is too tanky

It's funny that you put draven in because it's gotten to the point where he's the equivalent of a warwick in driantanking.

https://media.tenor.com/images/90f963d274ee1d27e7f2351935893992/tenor.gif

Oh, classic mother.

Add , the carry will never die

I've had to semi-regularly build Executioner's Calling on tanks because nobody else bothers to pick it up.

It's quite sad.

Gosh darn that mana resist. I don't have enough, causing my spells to burn all of my mana!!

He's always needed it from since they did the half and half damage. Now people know its mandatory.

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BOTRK-select few build it Liandry-viable on a few champs Last Whisper-nerfed into trash teir.

You ignore the massive level and gold lead they probably have and the fact yuor team is 5 early game squishies.

True, but you can always just get EC on the ADC for 800 gold. You're only giving up bonus crit or damage at that point, in exchange for having the damage matter more.

Why would you build liandries for pen, build a void staff. litterally anyone meta rn builds BORTK.
If last whisper is trash, then UPGRADE IT if the enemy team is too tanky then lord dominiks will probably be a good choice.

Lethality is actually less cost effective than flat ad against high armor targets. As you get more armor, the damage reduced becomes less. Thus, as your target has more armor, the effect of lethality becomes less. I just made a chart using gold costs of lethality and flat ad when attacking certain numbers of armor. Here are the results assuming bases of 0 lethality and 100 AD. AD translates to the same exact damage multiplier against the target no matter who the target is. Lethality changes based on how much armor the target has.

500 gold spent gives 14.5% damage from ad

50 armor target Lethality gains 17.4% damage

100 armor target Lethality gains 12.5% damage

200 armor target Lethality gains 8% damage

300 armor Lethality gains 5.9% damage

1000 gold spent gives 28.5% damage from ad

50 armor Lethality gains 42% damage

100 armor Lethality gains 28.6% damage

200 armor Lethality gains 17.4% damage

300 armor Lethality gains 12.5% damage

Now if it is late game and you already have 250 AD

500 gold spent gives 5.7% damage from ad

50 armor target Lethality gains 47% damage

100 armor target Lethality gains 45% damage

200 armor target Lethality gains 43.2% damage

300 armor Lethality gains 42.4% damage

1000 gold spent gives 11.4% damage from ad

50 armor Lethality gains 56.8% damage

100 armor Lethality gains 51.4% damage

200 armor Lethality gains 47% damage

300 armor Lethality gains 45% damage

As you can see, lethality is more effective against lower armor targets, but if you already have high amounts of AD, the gain from lethality is way higher. A balance of both will give you the most damage. Stacking lethality or AD isn't nearly as effective as building both. If you just build lethality against high armor you won't gain hardly anything. If you build it against a low armor target you will gain a lot. If you stack them both though, your gains against both types of targets are massive.