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iainB8540 votes

While I'm not thrilled about it, at least they didn't give us an entirely different ranked system for 5 seasons then force everyone to switch.

Also, Overwatch has built in voice comm, so people not in a full group have a much better chance of communication and coordination. It's not used a ton right now, but I expect when ranked comes out and people get more serious about being competitive it will be a welcome feature.

Game girl 124 votes

League players are not going to be able to take the built in comms lol. If they can't deal with toxicity through chat, toxicity through comms is a WHOLE nother level. Have you ever played COD?

Oleandervine29 votes

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Enjoy the built in voice comm....

(have you ever played COD?) [slayer-pantheon-popcorn]

Exactly my point. All I hear on voice comm is mouth breathers, kids getting yelled at by parents, nerds having conversations with themselves, and potheads who are utterly perplexed by the simplest functions.

Supreme Senpai6921 votes

You forgot people blasting music making it impossible to hear anything else

Knalxz1 votes

Why are all of those so specific. WTF

Oleandervine5 votes

{quoted}

Why are all of those so specific. WTF

Those aren't specific. Those are very common place on voice chat on the PS4 across almost every game I've played with voice chat. People have no idea how to either shut off their mic or censor what comes through when the real world interferes.

iainB859 votes

There's a mute button just like when someone's a dickhead in chat.

Game girl 13 votes

Then why is toxicity even an issue in league?

kaltenashes7 votes

because some people rather talk with the toxic (who knows what for) than pressing mute

M Dragon145 votes

And not to mention that toxicity is not limited to people's words, but their actions too.

roflcopterssssss1 votes

simple, reducing toxicity is easier in a game that costs money, not to mention to play overwatch ya gotta use a blizzard account, this means if you get banned you could potentially lose several hundreds of euro's in games ,

Jari2 votes

Don't spread that "losing so much in games" thing. If you are toxic on Overwatch, your account is banned for Overwatch. You aren't blocked from any other Blizzard titles, and instead they just rip overwatch from your account and lock it away. If you're banned from Overwatch, you can continue your behavior on World of Warcraft, although it likely will just chain anyways.

Ozag the Mighty8 votes

The horrors. I'm a 31 yr old man and listening to KIDS scream and yell the way they do is funny and stupid at the same time.

Spicy Rice9 votes

I love it when 12 year olds talk about how many girls they get and how big their dick is, with their voice cracking the whole time

President Swa1n1 votes

I'd still imagine as the playerbase grows, toxicity will arise in Overwatch, too. I hope I'm proven wrong.

iainB852 votes

Any popular online game with have toxicity. My hope is that since Overwatch is not F2P, when players get banned they won't just come back saltier than before like they do in League of Legends, since there is $40 price tag to come back.

Zerolocke1 votes

{quoted}

While I'm not thrilled about it, at least they didn't give us an entirely different ranked system for 5 seasons then force everyone to switch.

Also, Overwatch has built in voice comm, so people not in a full group have a much better chance of communication and coordination. It's not used a ton right now, but I expect when ranked comes out and people get more serious about being competitive it will be a welcome feature.

You can also join a ranked match that is 10 seconds away from being over and just get an auto loss.

iainB852 votes

No you can't.

You can join a Quick Play match that is 10 seconds from being over, but you don't get a loss. Back fill can only give players a win, not a loss.

While ranked play is not out yet in live, in beta it did not have back fill at all and people who disconnect can rejoin.

Zerolocke1 votes

{quoted}

No you can't.

You can join a Quick Play match that is 10 seconds from being over, but you don't get a loss. Back fill can only give players a win, not a loss.

While ranked play is not out yet in live, in beta it did not have back fill at all and people who disconnect can rejoin.

I thought there was a video of someone showing how he would get into a ranked match that was already over. Ah here it is,

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Iv1xw-R9M-Q

For the wiki that still has rules set out.

http://overwatch.wikia.com/wiki/Competitive_Play

iainB852 votes

Yes, he's talking about queuing up as a solo player in "Quick Play" there, which is akin to non-ranked for League of Legends, except unlike League of Legends, if someone leaves a match another searching player can be matched and filled into the team (back fill) so teams aren't uneven for the rest of the match. Unfortunately this means sometimes you get thrown into a game 10 seconds before a loss, which feels kinda shitty, but doesn't actually give you a loss on your record.

Ranked/Competitive has not been released yet so there's no way he could've queued up for it yet.

In beta, there was no "back fill" option in ranked queue, so that could never happen. The slots were reserved for the people who started the match and they could reconnect if they got disconnected (just like League). Penalties for leaving ranked queue were also much harsher.

edit: Now that I watch the video more I am realizing it was pretty misleading the way he compared Overwatch's "Quick Play" to League's "Ranked Play" without actually calling that out. He DID make it sound like you could lose a competitive match by joining a game 10 seconds before end by doing a comparison like that. But I mean, the guy is paid by Riot... so why would I expect him to be unbiased and/or bring up all the facts like solo rating means jack shit anymore? /shrug.

ClicktoMove20 votes

I was a WoW player before i came to league. i can tell you for a fact Blizzard response to the community is 10000000% worse than Riots. frankly i think the DQ whining is a little much but seeing Riot taking a page from Blizz really scares me. PSA though, leaving for a blizz game and hoping for a better experience is a huge mistake.

Shadula3 votes

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I was a WoW player before i came to league. i can tell you for a fact Blizzard response to the community is 10000000% worse than Riots. frankly i think the DQ whining is a little much but seeing Riot taking a page from Blizz really scares me. PSA though, leaving for a blizz game and hoping for a better experience is a huge mistake.

I am a Blizzard game player and I disagree that blizzard has bad community response. Look at overwatch, community saying mccree needs a nerf. they immediatly say they will look into it and even agree

ClicktoMove9 votes

this isnt something you can disagree over lol. its a fact. wow now has 3-4 million subs down from a peak of 12 million. they have consistently ignored player feedback in countless ways (ill save you the details) and catered instead to casuals. i hope riot learns from wows example that making the game more casual will kill it.

Rendarkan1 votes

You can't compare WoW to Overwatch. Not because WoW is older and OW is newer but the fact that WoW is a totally different game. Once Burning Legion is out the subscriptions are gonna increase regardless due to the new content including a whole new Hero Class.

ModAcademy Kayn4 votes

He compares WoW to Blizzard having a bad community response, not to Overwatch having a bad community response, I believe.

Leetri2 votes

Hearthstone and Heroes of the Storm aren't much better. People have reported literally game-breaking bugs in Hearthstone for ages and they have done 0 to fix it.

Spicy Rice2 votes

Took them friggin forever to deal with patron warrior, and when they did, they destroyed it completely

Leetri2 votes

That's one thing, but on mobile devices there has been one bug forever where if the enemy plays the Auctioneer and plays 2 spells quickly you will crash and by the time you get back into the game you've lost.

Spicy Rice2 votes

No wonder my opponents keep dcing...

SLICE AMERICANS9 votes

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I was a WoW player before i came to league. i can tell you for a fact Blizzard response to the community is 10000000% worse than Riots. frankly i think the DQ whining is a little much but seeing Riot taking a page from Blizz really scares me. PSA though, leaving for a blizz game and hoping for a better experience is a huge mistake.

Starcraft player here to confirm/correct. Blizzard takes their own damn sweet time to decide what they want from a game and have long sense abandoned WoW (The second expansion you fight and kill the biggest bad in the lore. Where do you go from there?). Their balance mentality is "Fuck what the fans say we'll collect our own damn data". Fans say "PROTOSS TO OP!!!" Blizzard looks at win rates, see Protoss are actually down 5% compared to other 2 so they buff them. Blizard hears "THE QUE IS BROKEN!!!" They check it out, break it more... Or my favorite from Diablo 3 'The Online Auction House is making standard items cost 100000000000K Gold when standard mobs drop 100 gold!" They decrease the cost of gold on the auction house when using real money thinking it will fix it and we'll by more fake 0s.

Dicerson19 votes

Games where premades of inequal sides are mathced up compromises less than .1% of games. -Riot statistics

Dr Poro13 votes

League of legends is one of those games.

roar20014 votes

That was really clever!

Baron Perenolde12 votes

Overwatch looks fun, but not worth the $60 price tag. Way too little in the way of content, if you ask me. I hear the "this game sucks, I'm going to Overwatch!" argument all the time on Eventhubs in regards to Street Fighter 5 (an admittedly shallow game atm). Dummies will be dummies.

ModAcademy Kayn14 votes

Not to nitpick, but 60$ is for all the extra skins and loot for other games. It's 40$ for the plain and simple game.

Teslablade7 votes

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NíbbaBíbba60 votes

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In the Overwatch queues, you are matched up with groups of an equal size.

THATS WHAT HAPPENS IN LEAGUE! THE IGNORANCE.

Deep Terror Nami60 votes

It only tries to, just like League.

Pentarina Only4 votes

No it fucking doesn't.

Snowplosion32 votes

This comment is ignorant as fuck...

Pentarina Only9 votes

People who think Riot tells the truth are ignorant as fuck.

Chake14u13 votes

Woah. Woah woah woah wait a damn minute.

Riot has fucked up with their game on multiple occassions, but they have never lied. Show me one time you ignorant fuck.

Edit: Alright, alright I'm wrong, happy?

Still, the assumption being made above is that Riot always lies, which is not true.

I think that Riot tries to tell the truth, but sometimes they don't tell the truth. Lying I don't think is the right word, but it's an easy word to use even if it isn't wholly true.

BTW, I said "ignorant fuck" as a quote he said. Sorry, that was out of line

The Deckowner32 votes

"solo queue will come back in a few weeks"

Chake14u8 votes

Link?

S H A Y C 018 votes

Because of this, we’ll launch a new Solo Ranked Queue (no duo’s!) in the coming weeks.

Riot Lyte

Here is the whole paragraph

"We also heard from some players who prefer to solely measure themselves against all comers. We’re sensitive to any large swath of players feeling like they’re losing their place in League and while we firmly believe in Dynamic Ranked as the future, the game’s social features don’t offer enough support for players looking for like-minded, similarly-skilled players today. Because of this, we’ll launch a new Solo Ranked Queue (no duo’s!) in the coming weeks."

so about that "never lied" thing....[slayer-pantheon-popcorn]

DeathBot6664 votes

But it wasn't a lie. The had a solo que up for exactly 3 seconds at midnight while the servers were down.

MrWasjig5 votes

Reeekt xD

Solaris Ventara4 votes

no they said they MIGHT bring it back. they never made a promise that it WOULD. learn the diferences.

earlsimmonz16 votes

"We also heard from some players who prefer to solely measure themselves against all comers. We’re sensitive to any large swath of players feeling like they’re losing their place in League and while we firmly believe in Dynamic Ranked as the future, the game’s social features don’t offer enough support for players looking for like-minded, similarly-skilled players today. Because of this, we’ll launch a new Solo Ranked Queue (no duo’s!) in the coming weeks."

From Lytle. There is no MIGHT in there. Learn to read kid.

YCitizenSnipsY6 votes

They also said they are leaving because Riot wont listen to their player base. Remind me, how did Blizzards biggest game die?

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