When somebody on the boards says that your main is too weak.
Initial reaction: http://mrwgifs.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/12/U-Wot-Fight-M8-Pug-Reaction-Gif.gif when you realize that you wouldn't mind the buffs: http://24.media.tumblr.com/667a47aed54ccd9504e93f3a16695969/tumblr_ms7jf76tVy1snq3e6o4_500.gif
I've never heard anyone complain about her being weak, despite her 47-48% winrate
I don't really get told he's too weak. I would say he is lacking a bit compared to new/reworked champs, but he can definitely keep up with them.