Guide to enjoying the Support role

i just get an eye, an ardent, then go full aps (sona mostly)

Until you realize that all supports (except Tass) are designed to have a heal, are forced to always have Cleanse no matter what for those that have it and are flamed if they don't pick it.

And Blizzard doesn't know what to do with Tassadar.

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hots's support role is trillions of times better, you actually feel impactful, weather its from higher impact ultis, a chart to directly show how much healing you've done, or that every support has a viable damage path, unlike in league, where youll get flamed for not buying a support item, or a sightstone

Part of it is that the support roles have so much utility built into them by default. And the heals are actually meaningful in most cases. Here it's like a heal always needs to be a clutch. Because you're only restoring one punch to the face every six to twelve seconds.

The message of this thread is a meme. It's a play off the meme "I made this." "You made this?" Then the second person takes it and says "I made this." In this case, the support IS bad and is just stealing the Vayne's credit to make themselves feel better about playing support.

But for the sake of argument, yeah, a support's KDA isn't everything because a lot of times you'll die to save the ADC and that isn't a score that is measured positively.

people dont realise how much the support does. Yeah, the adc does the dmg. But who got them fed? the support. Sometimes the support spoon feeds the adc. Like, thats litterally how i felt earlier when i played alistar, w q knockup to hold ashe in place. Ez just auto's/q's on the ashe who's in one place.

I understand that too. But if that really were true nami wouldn't have 12 assists with vayne's 24 kills. I would expect within two standard deviations she'd have between 17 and 22 assists. if the nami saved vayne, she would get assists for her triple kills and double kills each time, and she probs had a quad or penta that game, or two. to end a game with 1 death in solo queue showcases a quick game, or someone like dyrus who's skill level is way higher than his surroundings some games. and even then those games are about 25 min usually tbh. which- this also would then mean that nami died in every play she was in.

The KDA records show that vayne did a lot of work when nami wasn't even present, and that the nami was actually a risk to vayne's playmaking, who was getting free assists for vayne's good calls. that is the story that KDA pairing showcases. it would be true if that vayne were a jungle or top or mid, or if that nami was any other role too.

don't get me wrong I 100% agree with you that supports are very underappreciated by a lot of supports. but as an AD who very often is aware of how much a support can carry me in some lanes, in fact in some matchups I depend on it - it bugs me that those KDA ratios do not show a story of a good support, but rather one who is unaware of how hard they make the game. they get good games like with that vayne and think they're all that, but then don't realize that they could be doing a better job of supporting other adc's who aren't as good as that vayne. such supports are As dependent on a good ad as I am on a good support, and so are likely stuck in some elo hell just like me. it is difficult to find my mistakes and I am sure you have the same blind spot - it is only human. consider this an attempt to help encourage you to keep looking for that blind spot 'cause finding new ways to improve is rewarding as hell :D

if it was some tank support maybe, but as nami, you literally press 1 button on vayne and you will get an assist evey time she does damage. the fact that she doesnt have at least 20 assists means that she wasnt with vayne the entire time, keeping her alive, which means vayne kept herself alive the most nami did that game for win the lane for vayne

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What you're missing is that the Vayne lived because of the Nami. And if you don't understand that, I can see why you don't get the message of this thread.

The KDAs are wrong for that argument though. Every time Nami saved Vayne's life then died while Vayne got a triple (or whatever) Nami would be getting just as many assists as Vayne got kills.

Switch the 12 and the 24 (so Nami is making plays with the whole team, not just Vayne) and it would make more sense.

The thing is that nami had a very low assist number for what we can assume was a 35-45 kill game based off the number of kills vayne got + there being 3 other teammates in the game

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I hope I never have to support you

the felling is mutual. I've had to play with two or three supports like you this was no fun at all. fucked up my line, complained about me when I was 0 deaths and they 3. then went and roamed all game fucking up jungle's and mid's games too, with their poor initiation, map awareness, and skirmish capabilities. toxic all game too. arrogant as fuck.