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So, what's a light fighter?

Predatorator··4 votes·994 views

Long time ago, i've heard that Skarner's rework was meant to make him a light fighter. The light fighter direction seems also to be the same taken by the future Fiora rework, as i've heard earlier. So i'm trying to understand what's a light fighter in this game, how do You differentiate between light, medium, and heavy fighter classes? Does this differentiation depends on stustain, mobility, or damage? Thank You for paying Your attention to this. Enolagay45

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Rubitonabuilding5 votes

Lux Leona are both 'light' fighters

Predatorator1 votes

but how? as i can understand, Lux is given the "light fighter" classification depending on her durability; so Leona works in a totally different way, since i can call her a light figher, only because of the amount of damages she deals, which is lower than other fighters, am i right?

Rubitonabuilding1 votes

xD I was joking. Lux's name means light, and Leona channels the sun.

Predatorator1 votes

Oh ok sorry, i didn't get it x) lol!

Manchette2 votes

This is actually a very intriguing question. My first thought would be that Yasuo would be a light fighter, but then he has defensive capabilities. Giving ANY fighter such a specific classification and light, medium, or heavy would have to depend on a specific criteria; otherwise we would be left debating the topic for months!

Predatorator1 votes

Personally, i tend to differentiate between light, medium and heavy, depending on durability, since this worked in a popular tank game which i came from. To me, Yasuo's defensive capabilities make him a medium fighter; so can be Lee Sin and others who can actually stand pretty well in a 1v1, but tend to fall in a 1v3 or more. I'm unsure about Skarner...because the shield makes him a bit tanky, but how effective this tankyness is, depends on how he builds, to me. I've sent a ticket to the Support regarding this, but they told me to ask on forums, so now i hope a Rioter, or someone who got this idea clear, answers me. It may help to better understand the champions in this game.

Manchette2 votes

Perhaps we could figure this issue out ourselves, then? If we look at the champions classified under "Fighter" we find a relatively large amount of them.

Champions such as Malphite and Shyvana are a couple of them, who both have tanky natures and absorb quite a lot of damage, which could lead me to believe that they are an example of a "Heavy Fighter."

Building off of your idea, champions such as Yasuo and perhaps Ryze have the ability to absorb some damage but not too much, as well as dishing out a decent amount themselves. These could then be seen as "Medium Fighters."

Finally, the borderline assassins of the group such as Tryndamere and Fiora, who have barely any defenses and rely on doing massive amounts of damage could be seen as the "Light Fighter."

These classifications are all hastily formed, so if anyone has critiques or suggestions I would be happy to hear them.

Predatorator2 votes

Yeah, i can totally agree with this. I'd move Tryndamere in the medium fighter class: his heal is more a little utility tool if not built AP, but the ultimate increases quite alot Tryndamere's chances to succeed in a kill, or in a retreat, depending on how's the situation going to be. That said, i'm open to any opinion too, i find very interesting and nice to comprehend a champion by understanding his classes

Toyo2 votes

This is actually a very intriguing question. My first thought would be that Yasuo would be a light fighter, but then he has defensive capabilities. Giving ANY fighter such a specific classification and light, medium, or heavy would have to depend on a specific criteria; otherwise we would be left debating the topic for months!

The defensive capabilities of Yasuo are small enough and meant to entirely avoid damage (Flow bar shields, dashes for skillshots, and Wind Wall). I think this puts him more as a light fighter, because he's meant to be AVOIDING damage, and not just taking it.

Sir ArmaMalum2 votes

Personally I don't believe there is a good ground for a 'medium fighter' but my own rule of thumb is simply a 'light fighter' builds and plays closer to an assassin but can 'dance' around a teamfight given the right conditions (i.e. Yi, Yasuo, Fiora) and 'heavy fighters' are meant to go in and stay in, becoming just as much of a damage sponge as a damage dealer (i.e. Renekton, Nasus, Mundo). Essentially (imho) [light--->damage>survivability], [heavy--->damage=surviability]

Predatorator1 votes

There are situations where medium fighters can be viable. But yes, specialization is more popular, and works better with this game, in my opinion. So, i now understand we all agree on what a light fighter is. About the heavy fighters, i think what You said works only if they both got high damage and surviability, which excludes a tanky malphite and such, so the general rule should be surviability>damage to me, but i don't feel myself to exclude Renekton, Nasus and Mundo kinds from the heavy fighters class =)

Critkeeper2 votes

Light fighter: Yi

Medium fighter: Jax

Heavy fighter: Malphite

malphite relies on pretty much sheer defenses to survive in an engagement. Jax relies partially on sheer defenses and partially on skills to survive. Yi relies entirely on skills to survive.

That is how you define a light fighter-- what do they rely on to survive? If the answer includes "Some amount of resistances / passive durability boosts" then it isn't a light fighter.

Predatorator1 votes

Yeah, i'm tempted to consider Yi a medium fighter, because of his heal adn def booster, but since thet is relevant only on a fed Yi, i'll keep myself from doing so. I was actually questioning myself what Jax is, but again, if not fed, he's totally a medium fighter. And i totally agree with Your las statement.

ratcharmer1 votes

I'd love to hear an official response on this actually.

Riot (and players as well) frequently tosses around a lot of terms for groups of champions, but they frequently aren't referring to the champions I would think they are.

Predatorator1 votes

Yeah, in recent times, i've just realized how subjective can be the idea that players got about a class. To me, this is also due to the build paths a champion can take. However, You can see how in the comment history, we succeeded pretty well to defining at least what a light fighter is =). Official responses however are always appreciated, and can really solve some misconceptions =)

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