Fiora's R needs a good looking into

Mister Struggle·Nov 30, 2013·3 votes·876 views

Fiora is a champion specialized for 1v1 encounters, as well as having a decent amount of damage in teamfights. Now, there is one problem with her teamfight that gives her a HUGE advantage. Now, if this is intended or not, I see it as an issue.

If Fiora builds lifesteal, which most do, through items such as

or , her teamfight experiences a huge power spike. Her ultimate, Blade Waltz, as we all know, makes her untargetable for the duration, benefits off of lifesteal.

The reason I see this as a problem, is the fact that if throughout a teamfight she has taken heavy damage, and puts on her ultimate, she can heal back to full health and be invincible to damage in the process. I think this should be changed as it is a huge advantage. It would be like if Lissandra could spellvamp the ENTIRE time she was invulnerable, not just upon activation of her ultimate. Interested in your feedback! Thanks.

14 Comments

TaintedTaintNov 30, 20132 votes

Fiora is by far not viewed as an OP champion. Her entire kit lacks impressive play, so her only saving grace is a strong ult. I say leave her be.

Mister StruggleNov 30, 20131 votes

I agree, leave her ultimate, just make it so she can't lifesteal during it.

TaintedTaintNov 30, 20133 votes

No you don't agree, because I think the On Hit effect is the only thing keeping her viable at all. If you took that away, then she would be a "neverplay" champ.

RhytoDec 2, 20131 votes

This is pretty much true, she's already nerfed enough its just how players play with and against the champion that results in Fiora being fed enough to survive fights like that.

SonicÐeHedgedawgNov 30, 20131 votes

Umm.... that's the whole point of Fiora's ultimate. It's a huge gamble. Use it early to burst a carry? Use it late to heal up? Wait until the last moment to use it and maybe die before you can, or waste it before you take too much damage.

Mister StruggleNov 30, 20131 votes

Then why don't we just do that to every ultimate the same way Fiora's is. MasterYi Doesn't get lifesteal off of his Q, so why should Fiora be able to?

RhytoDec 2, 20131 votes

Because it makes them unique? O.o? Can't have copies of other champions you may as well have your whole team building lifesteal

NeekoTrapDec 1, 20131 votes

No. Building Lifesteal on Fiora is sub-optimal. If it were optimal play then it would be overpowered, but there's plenty of counter-play, like, walking under turret range or moving away from your team as the targeted entity.

It's niche and a niche Fiora fits well. However, it is still sub-optimal, and she'd already have to have been fed in order to do well with lifesteal.

Mister StruggleJan 2, 20142 votes

Building Lifesteal on Fiora is definately NOT sub-optimal. Have you played with/against any Fiora? They always at least have a Hydra, let alone how every AD Assassin builds a Bloodthirster.

JackAquaDec 1, 20131 votes

This is sad.

I Main SwainDec 1, 20131 votes

shes easily dealt with unless shes far along in her build and you don't have much tank. also, fiora is an insanely squishy top laner, and all you have to do to deal with one (in the event they get fed) is cc her butt off. if your team doesn't have any cc, then you just need to get a new team comp.

RhytoDec 2, 20131 votes

League of Legends isn't suppose to be easy; why keep making this game even easier for players?

raveyardNov 30, 2013

Hm, you bring up an interesting point there. But I have to disagree. Fiora as a champion is a glass cannon similar to MasterYi in her damage and lifesteal potential. If we were to nerf her ultimate so that she was still targetable during her ultimate it would give her absolutely no means of escaping from a fight. As it is she is still very susceptible to cc and kiting as she has no built in slowing mechanism. I feel that if we were to remove that portion of her ult her whole entire kit would need reevaluation. But who knows maybe if we saw it live it would turn out to be a good thing.

Mister StruggleNov 30, 20131 votes

I'm not talking about making her untargetable, I'm saying if we are going to make her untargetable, get rid of the lifesteal portion of her ultimate, to have a slight bit of fairness.