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Kyleman143··6 votes·674 views

Why was everyone so mad about the new skarner? he is so good like i literally played him for the first time since his rework because he was free this week i could 1v2 the mid and adc and come out of the fight with a double and half my health still

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CaptainWednesday7 votes

Summoners say they want change, but they really don't. It's us flexible ones that appreciate these amazing changes to good old Skar Skar. Players are mad he doesn't have his heal or Permaslow, but Bruiser Skarner is just as well. He gets kited, but a good Skarner player saves his W until the right time. Skarner is good no matter what the naysayers may... say. This same thing happened with Karma. She did not fit well in the game, just like old Skarner. Post rework, she came out to a crowd that hated her. She was buffed, and now she sits quietly, waiting for people to realize her amazing potential as a top tier poke support. Same with Skarner. People hated it, he got buffed, and now he waits patiently, for the Summoner that will believe in him once more. Summoners like you and I.

Kyleman1435 votes

This comment made my day skarner was not on my list of champions to buy until the recent game i played with him now i a feel a new jungler ready to join my team

HigeR3 votes

I couldn't agree more, I thought there was something wrong with me and my view of the game since ALL the feedback I've been seeing on Skarner is against his rework... but I love it :S seriously, he's an amazing champion now and people blinded by his OP permaslow won't let it stay the way he is right now.

That alone infuriates me; Scruffy said he has some more changes prepped for Skarner due to next week hopefully and all I can think is how they'll drive Skarner into OP territory again only to nerf him once more afterwards:/

Skarner is awesome where he is now, I would only make his Q buff last a little longer but that's it.

CaptainWednesday3 votes

Yes, most of the feedback is raging players whining that his permaslow is gone. Now, they threaten to destroy the perfectly balanced one we have now. I hope they keep Skarner around the same power level he is now. As you've stated, they might drive Skarner into the OP territory and nerf him yet again.

CaptainWednesday2 votes

Skarner is a very unique jungler (and lots of fun too). He can bring a lot to a team. The new Skarner also can fall behind, and still be threatening. Glad to hear you're enjoying Skarner.

Chaotic1341 votes

Karma HURTS with that RQ combo. I love her but I never played her pre-rework so I can't really say much about the comparison

CaptainWednesday2 votes

It was just awkward. The lower health she became, she would receive free AP. Not bad in theory, but it made you want lose a fight before you could actually turn it around. Present Karma is a really great poke support. I'd rank her up there with Morgana and Annie.

Chaotic1341 votes

I've noticed her being played recently in LCS as support and i can only imagine the terror of thinking you're safe under a tower and then Karma blows you up with an RQ and tanks turret with a shield while the enemy adc takes you out.

CaptainWednesday2 votes

That's what makes Karma great.

Chaotic1344 votes

I agree with OP. I win 100% of my ARAMs that I get when I roll him and about 75-80% of my Summoners Rift games. Very VERY few people played Skarner before and I didn't really find him that viable but I really like to play him now. Also, in response to the above comment, I never really noticed a lack of flow in his new kit. Combo E (To get in auto range) into W (Also, to get in auto range) into Q (for attack speed to lower cooldowns) into R (to keep them from running away easily) feels pretty fluid to me but maybe I'm misunderstanding something.

CamoClad2 votes

The main reason is that Skarner is no longer who Skarner was. The rework in reality gave us a new champion that just happens to have Skarner's name and a few commonalities in their respective kits. Also, feedback given per and post rework being frankly ignored, responses form Scruffy and or any Rioter were either absent or lacking a direction in accordance to the flow of feedback given, and promises made that have yet to be for-filled. The lack of a cohesive flow within this new kit also is a rather big deal. Hope this helps answer some of your questions.

Sire Hippington1 votes

Mostly people that didn't play/like old scarner like u can say they like the rework. He just lost a lot of his feeling. Playing him feels wierd and a bit like a new champ, and for me it isn't very statisfying.

I mostly played him as ap-bruiser top, but as ap-toplaner he sufferd alot from that rework as he lost dps and tankiness and didn't gain anything in return. Since i never liked him in the jungle, Scarner prettymuch died for me with the removed heal and lower dps on E. As a jungler he does well now, but only after the first few buffs. directly after the rework, he just sucked.

Also about that karma rework, new karma needed quite alot off buffs to become viable so the complains right after the rework were justyfied, and even now, she's just a new champ that has nothing in common with the old Karma. The few people that liked old Karma lost a champ, the rest gained one.

Kyleman1432 votes

What are you talking about with skarner having lower DPS? i play him in the jungle and carry my games 3v1ing while waiting for my team to come i broke 15 kills both games without thinking about it and the feel to me seems fine i played skarner before the rework and he was so slow in the jungle and just seemed really weak to me this new skarner is way way stronger and way faster in terms of clearing and everything

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