What do I do about feeders?

Water of Eden·Feb 26, 2014·2 votes·592 views

So I've been in a lot of games recently where either our mid or our bot fed so hard that it was physically impossible to win a teamfight because their adc or their mage was getting back-to-back multi kills. It's really annoying because it feels like no matter what I do, my ranked standing is in the hands of teams that are giving out free wins by feeding. For example, I went 18/7 with Vayne the other day but our mid fed the opponent Leblanc so hard that I was almost always melted in a matter of seconds. Most of my kills came from picking people off out of position or ulting and out-maneuvering the opponent adc. Last game, I went Yasuo and I absolutely demolished the other Yasuo (it was a mirror match). I ended the game 4/1 and he ended the game 0/3. Our bot didn't get a single kill, didn't call an mia so i got ganked by their Lucian, their Leblanc, and their Warwick. Their Lucian ended either 9/1 or 8/1. This has happened in Ranked, Hexa, and normals. What do I do? What do you do when your team has fed so hard that you just can't win? It's really frustrating because I feel super helpless when everyone else has 9 or 10 deaths and I'm the only one with a decent or neutral KDR.

7 Comments

MXXIVFeb 26, 20143 votes

Play 1v1 games or get used to it.

TulareFeb 26, 20141 votes

After they've fed? There's not much you can do. When you first notice they're giving up kills? If you can offer advice on how to play their matchup more effectively, that's the time to do it. And not just "quit feeding," even if that's the gist of it. "Mid, it looks like you're getting outplayed. Try to play more defensively and jungle, can you help get mid back on track?"

Water of EdenFeb 26, 20141 votes

What in particular would you suggest? People sometimes get defensive. Is there a way I can say that in a way my teammates won't lash out at me?

TulareFeb 27, 20142 votes

The specific advice you give will vary with the situation. As far as how to avoid backlash...

Be positive. Express confidence in the struggling teammate. Explain how he or she could do better rather than focus on what he or she is doing poorly.
Be kind. That's another person you're talking to. Genuine trolls aren't THAT common. If they're not deliberately trying to mess up your day, don't deliberately try to mess up theirs. (If they are deliberately trying to mess up your day, just mute them and do your best.)
Be creative. If "standard" tactics aren't working, suggest different tactics and be adaptable, yourself. Marshall your team to compensate in creative ways for the mistakes of that one player. If you don't know what that player should be doing differently, realize that he or she might not either.

COMMINGFeb 26, 20141 votes

Basically if you know a lane is losing you have to try and gank the lane yourself. thats why i jungle =D. From all the videos riot makes i noticed giving a kill or 2 to my team instead of getting myself fed is very valuable. i noticed my team was balanced in kills and was able to kill one fed person and their team easily. its just all strategy. no matter what you have to help a lane that is struggling. Teamwork Op is seriously very honest

Water of EdenFeb 26, 20141 votes

I actually main jungle too but it sometimes happens when I'm playing top and bot is practically inaccessible to me when my tower is still up because if I were to teleport bot to help, my tower would get taken.

SynCroFeb 27, 20141 votes

Sometimes I feel it's better to let a tower go if it means you can stop the enemy team from getting fed. Yes you may lose a tower early, but if you counter it by helping your team secure some kills you can trade that tower for the game. It's all perspective my friend.

This game is basically like chess, sometimes you give up your queen to check mate the king. Sacrifices can net you larger rewards.