An Open Letter to Marksmen: Why You Should Be Kind to Your Support

Water of Eden·4/6/2014, 6:41:29 PM·15 votes·1,673 views

Supporting ain't easy. It takes extreme map awareness, timing, positioning, and teamwork. Too often do Marksmen think they are entitled to verbally abuse their supports if they get killed due to being out of position. So here goes. If you're a marksman and you're going to downvote this, don't think I'm bagging on you. I just want you to take something away from this post and realize that supports are people too.

Scenario: I was playing last game as Leona and I had just backed after Vayne and I had frozen the lane. I buy the upgraded Amulet Coin and I'm headed back to lane. I'm watching bot lane. Vayne tumbles into a Morgana snare, Cait puts a trap under her, and Vayne gives up first blood. Who does she rage at? Yup. You guessed it. She goes off on me, starts calling me a troll, a faggot, a noob, and the whole nine yards, saying I'm "too fkin slow." You can't buy mobis on supports at five-six minutes.

So Vayne goes full out, starts flaming at me in all-chat, etc. Why? She got caught out and Morgana capitalized on her mistake. So, here's a secret, Marksmen: Supports don't play to please you. They play support because as a Marksman, you're squishy and need to be protected until late game. I've played support long enough to know that Marksmen like that aren't going to cool down. So instead of taking this verbal abuse from Vayne I head top to help Trundle out. Almost instantly he gets a kill from their top laner. In the end, we lost it because Vayne was never with the team because she thought she was too good for us.

TL;DR: Stop calling supports noobs and faggots because you made a mistake. If you're flaming at them in all-chat because you got out of position and their support was good enough to capitalize, maybe you deserve your bronze 5. You're not better than everyone else. Stop acting like you're God's gift to League of Legends.

39 Comments

Chaotic1344/6/2014, 7:57:03 PM4 votes

I hate people like Vayne so much. If I rage at a game it's usually at myself for doing poorly and then my guilt and anger at myself is translated more into toxicity at my team (which is unintended). I play Marksman from time to time but I also play support, too so I get it. It's also really frustrating when you're warding all over the place and you ping the map but your adc doesn't look at the map and dies anyway and then tells you you need to ward more -.-

PaladinNeph4/7/2014, 1:21:08 PM4 votes

I don't know why you limit it to just marksmen. let me give you another scenario:

I was ashe playing with a nami, I had just got us a kill, and, thinking I had built a bit of capital, gave nami a suggestion (you don't advise when you're down.) note these were my exact words. "if you could bubble enemies when they come out of stun from my ult, that'd be awesome."

...and she flips her shit, undermines the lane and makes it insanely hard for me to win it. I won it anyway, but it would have been a lot easier with a bit of help.

any support out there, please note: your job is NOT just to ward and heal. your job is to be badass enough to kick ass and take names without a lot of gold by using hard cc and high base damage abilities. and if you're not doing it? you can bet the other support is.

any marksman out there, pleas note: your job is to get fed early and dominate late game. to further that goal, it is IMPERATIVE that you work with, not against your support. to do that, you must understand the support role well. in order to be a good marksman, you must also be a mediocre support.

I'm a really laid-back marksman. I don't whine at my support for wards, I have my trinket and know how to use it. I don't whine at my support for stolen CS, she'll never steal as much as I get. I don't whine at my support for stolen kills, assist gold is better than no gold. so I just ignored the nami, played more carefully, reported her at the end of the match.

TL;DR: don't flame. and if someone else does, keep cool, don't respond, don't go on tilt, and report at the end.

Neofederalist4/7/2014, 4:25:46 AM2 votes

Now, I want to preface this by saying I agree with the general sentiment that the ADC shouldn't blame the support for stuff which isn't their fault.

But.

It kinda sounds like you abandoned Vayne after he died once and flamed you. If you just gave up on the lane, you probably did more harm than good. You just left Vayne (the ADC with probably the weakest laning phase) in a 1v2 in a lane that she was already a kill down.

Their bot lane could pretty much push all day, take towers, and then back off and roam for objectives. Your Vayne, having been denied, would have been pretty useless in teamfights anyway.

Again, I'm not excusing flaming the support, but you would probably have been better off ignoring the comment or muting him, going back into lane, and waiting for a jungle gank to help Vayne get back into the game than abandoning her.

ZackWyvern4/7/2014, 11:35:17 PM2 votes

Always autolock Teemo.

Lord Graves III4/6/2014, 9:40:03 PM2 votes

If I may add something?

You aren't entitled to a support that synergizes with your carry. You just arent. No more than the support is entitled to a marksman that synergizes with their support choice.

If they picked soraka, don't pick Jinx. Pick Varus. Or Teemo. If they picked Leona, pick a bursty all in champ. If they picked Janna, don't pick an early game kill marksman.

And if you don't, don't feel like they should have chosen around you either.

Teemo is also really fun bot. just saying.

wlwl14/8/2014, 10:01:42 PM1 votes

nice

Chaotic1344/7/2014, 9:25:20 PM1 votes

Hey he did a video for "Marksman", too! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tqakQqxkcME

I Want Leona4/8/2014, 2:29:15 PM1 votes

I'm an ADC main and it makes me sad whenever I see an ADC berating the support. If the support genuinely messed up such as not providing a timely heal or failing to ward river which results in a gank, than yeah sure, say something. But it pisses me off when an ADC thinks they can chew out their support for even the smallest of mistakes, even more so when the ADC is at fault for the mistake. A lot of ADCs nowadays seem like they think they're too entitled to everything in the game. They think that just because they have the power to 3piece any non-tanky champion, they have the rights to pretty much whatever is in the game.

Tsiddique4/8/2014, 12:48:57 AM1 votes

As I main ADC and play support occasionally, I completely see this happening more than I would like to see. The only time where I say something bad to my support is when they are blatantly not doing anything to help the team in any way.

When I do support however, I know that the first person they blame is the Support, and then the jungler.

wasdsaw4/7/2014, 12:10:40 PM1 votes

AGREEDDDDLeeSin

Not Arcane Ezrea4/7/2014, 12:08:05 PM1 votes

Dear, support:

Stop making threads on the League forums and fucking ward.