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Riot! What are you doing to Katarina?

Unvictus·9/18/2013, 3:42:05 AM·3 votes·696 views

Katarina has been my favorite champion practically ever since I started playing this game. I was excited to see she was getting a rework. I liked the rework because you addressed her reliance on her ultimate and a few other issues. Then she was hit with the nerf bat because of "tank Kat" which was only op because warmogs was op, not Kat! Her qwe base damages were nerfed and she entered a state that consisted of her being almost unplayable. Now you give her ult more damage and leave her qwe alone. On top of that you made her ult duration 2.5 seconds which is not helping her in the least! You said it yourself, you said that the rework was to make her less reliant on her ult and now your doing the exact opposite! You are contradicting your reasoning for her rework. With all the cc these days, Kat can't afford to be that reliant on an ult on a 2.5 second channel that can be interrupted by almost every champion in the roster! I myslef and the community would greatly appreciate some feedback concerning what you are trying to accomplish with Kat.

6 Comments

BardDecisions9/18/2013, 1:50:48 PM2 votes

I personally don't think she needs more damage anywhere. The main problem when you play Katarina is that you have quite a high amount of medium to hard counters that will zone you out in lane, most notably Lissandra. If she needs a buff, it's towards her survivability which would be buffing her Shunpo either by reducing its Cooldown or increasing the % Damage Reduction through levels, so she can actually survive through lane with sufficient farm to do her job later on.

Unvictus9/18/2013, 11:42:19 AM1 votes

Bump

Spectre Gadget9/18/2013, 6:09:35 PM1 votes

I agree! Katarina should be an ap assassin champion, but you can't be an assassin when you have to sit still for 2.5 seconds. =/

MinxyA10/5/2013, 4:51:30 AM1 votes

I agree with Unvictus. I play this game since season 1 and you guys spoiled my main champions. Kat was one of them.

Kat used to be pretty flexible with moderate cooldown times(cd times not high neither low) that you could build your runes with cd reduction, magic penetration and ability power (or full AP+ MGP), giving her great mobility and flexibility during solo and team fights. But now, omg, shunpo has like 11 seconds cd time! A good team fight lasts 10-15 seconds, which means you are going to shunpo only one time(unless you get a kill or wait your team gets for you). That's ridiculous, it affected all my player style.

Also, we know that Darius is an easy champion. Darius' "Noxian Guillotine" was constructed by cloning "Death Lotus", come on, everybody knows that. Both has the same concept, get a kill and get your cds reseted so you can get another kills and keep going towards a penta kill (why not). I'm asking you RIOT, why in the world Darius keeps being OP, tanky and STILL gets the cd reseted while Kat has only few seconds of reduction? That's ridiculous.

So here's the thing:

  1. Kat should be flexible like in the season 1. That means the cooldowns should be low (5 seconds average). Make adjustments for the damage to compensate this.

  2. Kat used to be an assassin mage, not a mage assassin. Fix that. Mages have high damage with moderate/high cooldown time, but assassins must have medium cd time with more flexibility and mobility. Shes got mobility only if you get a kill, that's frustrating.

  3. I understand the AD ratios, that makes the farming better. But now, I don't think Kat's an AP champ but some kind of hybrid one. I think "Death Lotus" lotus should have only AP ratio, with a high damage typical of a mage, after all she's an AP champion. It's ok if "Sinister Steel" has an AD ratio.

  4. Move speed needs to be a little more higher, or you can just increase the "Sinister Steel" move speed buff time. It could last until the cd was reseted. That would give her mobility for sure. The low move speed affects the chasing and escaping.

  5. "Sinister Steel" is a good cd, but after the remake the "Bouncing Blades" became pretty bad cd. That's because BB now has a very high cd time. That really suchs. I mean, you have to wait 11 seconds to cast it again, wth RIOT! Honest, the remake made her fat and slow. I'd rather play Kat season 1!

  6. Maybe a little more range and fog of war visibility? We could jump better in the jungle minions for epic escapes and chases.

  7. "Shunpo" now is too predictable. I mean, the new shunpo's animation is very slow, it gives your enemy a chance to cc you or something. This affects the auto attack that you would inflict, causing a loss of damage, because you are probably use BB to get away fast. In season 1 Kat was faster than she is now, your enemy's time reaction wasn't fast enough to perceive her shunpo+auto attack. She just appear behind the target and people were like "what the hell, Am I being back stab?". But not now, when you shunpo and get your ass kicked.

Even the new sprites sucks. The old ones were bad ass. She was cute. Now she's fat. Her daggers are really ugly. The old daggers were killing ass. Please make the daggers and blades look better. Make better, just give us season 1 Katarina.

I hope that you can consider this humble opinion from a Season 1 player. I know how Kat was and how she is now. I'm not a pro player and I know that a pro couldn't agree with me, because his job is to adapt his/her player style to the updates. But I think a champion should be fun in the first place. It has to entertain even rookie players.

I quit playing WoW just to play LoL and so many friends of mine. That's because this game rocks! But this game isn't being as fun as it used to be like in the season 1 or 2, and I'm quite sure that many people think like me. I don't want to play an OP tank bruiser solo top or any new cheap champions just because my old season 1 champ got old with a lot of disadvantages.

So please, could you make Kat better? Thanks!