Thoughts on Marksmen (Essence Reaver, Mercurial Scimitar, Zephyr)

jKhFHVI2Wv·7/17/2014, 2:39:22 PM·2 votes·870 views

Hi guys,

Here is my general thoughts on items for marksmen.

Riot designers are implementing new heavy gold/ late game items like Essence Reaver or New BT, but what i dont understand is that; Atm markmen items are divided like this: Power spike items (shiv, yoummuu, triforce, bork) #Zap Standard Mid game items (IE, Last whisper, new BT, PD) #Minigun Late game oriented items (Manamune,Essence Reaver, Mercurial Scimitar) . #RocketLauncher

What im asking is why every defensive ad items are built up with negatron cloak?

Why Essence Reaver who should be a power spike item doesnt have (chalice or forbidden idol) + (pick axe or vamp scepter) as recipe? Essence Reaver: Forbidden idol+ Vamp scepter+ 950g = 2450g Essence Reaver: Chalice+ Pick Axe+ 695g = 2450g We should consider Essence Reaver like Morellonomicon?

Why Mercurial build isnt like Zhonyas? BF=Large rod but chalice=qss, Does 20 Magic resist is worth 670 gold?

Im just confused about Magic resist vs Attack Damage on gold worth, and why ForbiddenIdol or Chalice isnt used to solve mana issues for Marksmen or Melees.

In my mind, Reaver recipe should be a early to mid game item with chalice or forbidden idol and cheaper so no BF in it.

Also, Scimitar should not be this much expensive compared to GA, we should reconsider the fact that negatron is not a good building items? Marksmen have already good late game scaling items (ie,last whisper), if you want reaver to work make it in shiv and youmuu price range. Don't make Reaver like a Bork without active. Marksmen should be affected by their building choices, like shiv>pd? , Bt>ie?, Crit build> lifesteal build> Blue build?

Anyways i feel like the Marksmen items has a lot of depth and interesting but some are just weird. If any rioter could answer this i'd be pleased. Sorry if i made any grammar mistakes, EU scrub here.

3 Comments

Sire Hippington7/17/2014, 6:59:02 PM2 votes

I don't agree that essence reaver should be early to mid(atleast if it'S ment to be the max upgrade of a item-line) However, it should either built out off a forbidden idol(would explain mana+cdr on it and give the needed manasustain-option for the early laneing), or built out of a new earlygame item with a managain passive, like: Spirite Reaver, item 1036 item 1004 +260g(800 total) -10ad -3mp5 -2-6% manasteal on hit based on missing mana

Essence Reaver, Spirite Reaver+item 1053 item 3134 +396(3333 total) -55ad -10%lifesteal -10%cdr -15arpen -5mp5 -2-8%manasteal based on missing mana

Czar Matt Damon7/17/2014, 3:00:21 PM1 votes

essence reaver would be better with a lower tier item with a weaker version of its passive.

Stacona7/17/2014, 7:03:32 PM1 votes

chalice and forbidden idol are not items a marksman wants, the only solution would be have essence reaver cost 700 gold, built from long sword and give 10ad and the mana leech passive (360+340=700) and the final upgrade will be what essence reaver gives now with the 80 ad version of it