Vel'koz's W and Yasuo's Windwall

THExJACKAL·Feb 28, 2014·7 votes·1,084 views

So, my question is this, why does Yasuo's windwall, stop Vel'koz's Void Rift? I mean, it's not a missle for one, and for two, it's opening a rift in the ground, which should actually be UNDERNEATH the windwall of Yasuo. So, why is it blocked? Then it shoots UP, not forward in an explosion. So can someone, preferably from @Riot, explain why this happens? It just doesn't make sense to me as to why it is blocked when it's not really a projectile/missile, and it is from underneath the windwall, so it should just bypass it. Can this be changed?

10 Comments

StrahlendFeb 28, 20145 votes

It blocks velkoz void fissure but not xeraths beam. makes sense.

AnonagonFeb 28, 20144 votes

Xerath's beam ( and Vel'koz's ult) are not blocked because they are not projectiles, they do not have movement. Malph Q and Koz W are blocked because they have direction and movement.

THExJACKALMar 1, 20141 votes

I can see what you're saying about direction and movement, but what I am saying is it doesnt make much sense, because Vel'koz's W would be underneath the windwall. So how can the windwall block something, when it is up it, and not actually blocking it by being in front of it? The windwall is on top of the ground, so the rift that separates the ground should not be blocked because it is happening underneath the windwall. That is what I am saying. It doesn't make sense to me really that something above ground, can block something happening, under the ground.

AnonagonMar 2, 20141 votes

The logic behind it really doesn't matter to the game - its coded as a "projectile" (direction and movement), so WW blocks it. Its stupid and we all realize it. Riot just doesn't want to have too many special cases for windwall. Too much "burden of knowledge".

I believe only two spells are coded as special cases for windwall, and I think they are Rumble's Ult and Naut's Ult. Vel'Koz's W isn't an ult, so it isn't as important to Riot that it gets the special treatment.

TravaranMar 2, 20142 votes

Yasuo needs his wind wall 100% this isn't the time to nerf him right after they nerfed him, first of all his ultimate has a smaller ranged and his flow bar takes way longer to fill along with some other stuff, his win wall allows him to go toe to toe with ranged, gives him some space to farm. This isn't the time for another change to Yasuo right after they made him weaker.

THExJACKALMar 5, 20141 votes

This wouldn't be a nerf really. I mean, his wind wall is pretty op as it is. Basically what your "toe to toe" statement is saying, is that Yasuo's wind wall, makes ranged champs, essentially useless, so yeah, it is kinda op already. Besides, his ult range definitely needed to be shortened, I mean come on, jumping onto a group of people, from miles away? and stay in the air? Yeah, cause THAT didn't need to be nerfed. In either case, this isn't a question on nerfing Yasuo any more, it's more so stating that, if something is going underneath the wall, it should not be blocked, much like anything that flys OVER the wall, doesn't get blocked, I would think the same thing would apply if something was going UNDERNEATH it.

TravaranMar 6, 20141 votes

If we're going by what makes sense then allot of powers would be changed. I've played Yasuo allot and his wind wall does not make ranged champions useless by any means, it has a long cool down and can easily be made useless by walking to the side and shooting then. That happens every time I play as Yasuo or against him. The wind wall is just to give him some space to farm early game or to escape late game. I understand it doesn't make sense but like I said some powers don't make sense and Riot isn't going to change his powers right after nerfing him. Also his ultimate isn't that op, allot of champions have normal abilities that have a range close to that.

Exploding BarrelFeb 28, 20141 votes

In the view of the game's systems it is a projectile, I believe. Its art just shows it as a ground effect, but it otherwise behaves like one. Similar to Diana's Q.

Edit: Actually does wind wall block Diana's Q? I don't know for sure.

THExJACKALFeb 28, 20141 votes

I believe it does, but in the case of Diana, the light is on top of the ground, not underneath, so it makes a little more sense as to it being blocked. Although, you could argue the Xerath's Q, I think it is, is also on top of the ground, but it doesn't get blocked. So idk, just doesnt seem to be consistent with the mechanics of the game at times. I would think that something underneath the windwall, would not be blocked, where as something on top of the ground, would be blocked. It would just make more sense cause if its underneath, how can it be blocked? Cause the limit of the windwall, should be where the ground starts, not underneath it.