Shyvana buff discussion

KelmirOsue·9/22/2019, 8:37:57 PM·1 votes·2,073 views

Hey, so I notice that there are quite a few champions that need desperate attention. One of the most notable is Shyvana, I never see her being played. And after playing her. I do personally feel like her passive needs a drastic buff, and her abilities needing to be changed slightly. So I would personally like to suggest a few things. One, her ultimate, dragon descent completely needs a rework. Getting just bonus HP is not enough and the fury, needs some rework. What I would do with these changes is make sure that when she uses her ultimate, gain an extra 500 health, 25 armor and magic resist. Keeping everything else should help out significantly. Also her fury should increase faster the more cool down reduction you have. Base on the percentage given. This will help keep pace with other champions ultimate. Second her passive needs a massive buff. It should deal 30% more to dragons instead of the 20. She struggles with the ganking on jungling. So having her farm faster is a must to reach level 6 to even be able too gank successfully and secure dragon easily. Also for every dragon killed, have her gain 10 armor and 10 magic resist, as well as a 5% bonus to cool down reduction on top of gaining 100 HP. To a max of 40% cool down reduction like all other champions and to a max of 500 HP bonus. These changes should allow her to keep up with other champions. These buffs may be a little to much, but honestly. Look at Yi, if they're ok with Yi being such a busted champion then they should be totally fine letting Shyvana be busted as well. Cmon guys, work together in discussion and bother Riot to buff our beloved dragonborn champion

9 Comments

Durgens2269/29/2019, 1:02:31 PM2 votes

all i ask from riot is to bring her back to being a bruiser

Haedrig9/22/2019, 9:35:04 PM1 votes

You're asking to make a busted champ because yi is busted so it should be ok??? I understand your frustraion with having a champ you play feel weak but take into account shyv can take a dragon at lvl 3 with a item 3715 or a item 3706 while most jglers struggle for jg dominance early, if she manages to snag a drag early, fighting her early jg will be insanely difficult considering she has ar and mr plus an extra 100 g from drag. But thats not even the most broken thing, you're saying (from what i'm understanding) is that after killing a drag, she gets 100 bonus hp, 10 more ar, and 10 more mr. Let me just put this into perspective. You're lvl 18 shyv 6 drakes, no items just base stats. You would have 500 more hp (because that's where you generously capped it) 60 more ar and 60 more mr PLUS 30% CDR from nothing but drags (no runes too) . You would be sitting as 2710 hp, 155 AR, 113 MR, and 30% CDR. The hilarious thing is that you haven't even ulted yet, you would gain 500 more hp and 25 more AR and MR.

Shyvana in ultimate form with no items or runes, just dragons

HP 3210 AR 180 MR 138 CDR 30% Plus the buffs of 6 drakes

I need not say anything else because there is so much more to say about your proposed fury changes that would make her the most broken champion in the entire game as you could build attack speed to constantly have your Ult up and you could build AP or AD and maul teams by yourself.

I also fooled around with a tank build, If you built 5 item 3083 and a item 1401 , you would have 8636 hp and when you ulted into a team, you would proc aftershock giving you 120 AR and 115 MR for 2.5 seconds putting you at 300 AR, and 253 MR and after 2.5 seconds, your after shock would explode, dealing 120 + 345 = 465 AOE dmg.

Yi has definate counters, focus and cc him to instantly kill him but shyv is a diver, she would be absolute hell to deal with. I don't know much about shyv and how she is in her current state but i was just having some fun with your proposed changes :)

Rockman9/22/2019, 10:58:57 PM1 votes

AP shyv is broken though. Dragon E is like 70% of an ADC health

KelmirOsue9/23/2019, 3:15:15 AM1 votes

Ok, so I just found out about the rework poll. And if they plan to rework her abilities while indragon form. Then I have a few ideas

1: Keep her R the way it is. It's perfectly fine with maybe a little more Armor and MR bonus if it has any. Like 10-15 in both. Just to make her feel more tanky as a dragon. And maybe a stun effect for like 0.5 seconds+ 0.2 per level after first, so a max of a 0.9 second stun. Gives her some CC initially 2: Her E doesn't need changing in dragon form. Maybe make the slow a little more noticeable or her AoE bigger so the slow matters more? Other then that nothing really wrong with it. 3: Her W would need to be completely different. She's a god damn dragon. Give her a usable leap ability so she can chase more. Basically a repeatable, same cooldown as her current W, but can't be maintained. But when landing it basically sends enemies in the air. Similar to Baron, but does no damage. Basically a stay put. Your my prey 4: Her Q, should be a firebreath that sets enemies on fire dealing DoT. And leaves the ground scorching like her E, causing less slowing compared to it tho. But a very short range. Similar to Annie's W in comparison as far as range is concerned. 5: Passive needs to be modified for dragon form. I would keep her passive the same. Maybe bump the damage from 20% to 30%. My opinion tho. With possibly a +10 HP per dragon kill to make it feel more meaningful. But in her dragon form it needs to do something different. Maybe make her W but w/o the speed bonus, a passive active that does idk, deals damage based on how many dragons killed. Like 15 + X% amount of AP with increasing % based on how many dragons killed (including elder dragons) per second. Soo like maybe 5% + 3% per dragon killed.

Maybe also make her W in human form scale off of AP as well. But not her Q in human form because that's a basic attack reset. I think with all this it will make her significantly more viable. And make you feel more like a dragon.

Just my ideas if they completely plan to rework her soon based on the polls. Might be a bit busted and some things could change or be modified

Results of the poll below. https://nexus.leagueoflegends.com/en-us/2019/05/choose-a-champion-update-voting-results/

7thHeaven10/2/2019, 2:21:51 AM1 votes

No, no. She needs a rework.