Pajama Party Skins: It's our own fault

Rokkitt··2 votes·1,942 views

It's so obvious that these skins are just another cash grab from Riot. I mean they're just the base skins with some overlays & the same affects & weapon models. They don't have borders that you could've gotten with the originals but yet cost more without the borders!

The thing that bothers me most though is the fact that Riot has to know how much of a rip off this is & yet does it anyway. They don't care if ripping us off gives them a bad name as a company because they still make money. For every 10 people that complain about the prices for a high price/low quality skin 1 will buy it. Sure, more people would buy a High Quality Skin that takes time & effort to make at a reasonable. But why do that when you can just make a bunch of Crappy Skins that take almost no time & effort & sell them for a ridiculous price!

Sadly enough I have to say I'm one of those people that buy high price/low quality skins. Riot sells way more about casual players like me that only play blind, because one of the main reasons I play the game is to collect skins. Ranked players may play more & take the game more serious but they don't buy as many skins as I do because they play a lot less champs.

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The Sword Saint2 votes

It's not a rip off, it's just a skin. It's even heavily discounted if you already own the standard version. If you like it then buy it, if you aren't interested then don't. Since they are so similar to the original skins then they are clearly the same value as those originals so if you don't own the originals and choose to buy the pajama version then that's the same cost as buying the original one.

Rokkitt2 votes

[{quoted}](name=PUBG Sword Saint,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=8FcpY1JK,comment-id=0000,timestamp=2018-11-25T05:13:29.792+0000)

It's not a rip off, it's just a skin. It's even heavily discounted if you already own the standard version. If you like it then buy it, if you aren't interested then don't. Since they are so similar to the original skins then they are clearly the same value as those originals so if you don't own the originals and choose to buy the pajama version then that's the same cost as buying the original one.

I see what you're trying to say but my point is that they hardly put any work into making these skins. All other skins they've made that cost 1350 rp had different sound & particle effects then the skins, no 2 were ever the same. They were lazy & just slapped a skin on another skins sounds & particle effects, & even the skin of the weapons weren't changed. That's like if Rusty Blitzcrank was being sold for 1350 rp!!!

The Sword Saint1 votes

First, I highly doubt thats how that works since they would need to create new models for the clothing and animate them to fit the previous rig even if they reused then old star guardian assets for that.

Second it literally doesn't matter if they just recolored it and released it since it's not a chroma, it's it's own skin. That means you don't have to own the original skin to buy this one which makes it cost less than it would cost to buy the original and then buy a chroma for the original.

No matter how you look at it this is a good value proposition for players. For fucks sake, even if they reused assets to save time that means they have more time and resources to put towards other skins - including for visual updates of champions since that requires that all old skins for a champion be remade to bring them in line with the new look.

It really feels like your argument comes down to 'I don't think it's good that Riot was able to think of a way to get a higher profit margin out of making a skin without charging the players extra'.

Because thats what happened. Players aren't being charged extra for anything. If you never bought the originals, these are the same value as those and just offer you a different option of equal value. If you did buy the originals and are interested in these variants, they are discounted by half.

What does Riot have to do to please you in this situation? Not making the skins at all seems to be what you're going for despite the fact that other players seem to like them and are happy to have them.

Rokkitt1 votes

[{quoted}](name=PUBG Sword Saint,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=8FcpY1JK,comment-id=000000000000,timestamp=2018-11-25T11:45:15.015+0000)

First, I highly doubt thats how that works since they would need to create new models for the clothing and animate them to fit the previous rig even if they reused then old star guardian assets for that.

Second it literally doesn't matter if they just recolored it and released it since it's not a chroma, it's it's own skin. That means you don't have to own the original skin to buy this one which makes it cost less than it would cost to buy the original and then buy a chroma for the original.

No matter how you look at it this is a good value proposition for players. For fucks sake, even if they reused assets to save time that means they have more time and resources to put towards other skins - including for visual updates of champions since that requires that all old skins for a champion be remade to bring them in line with the new look.

It really feels like your argument comes down to 'I don't think it's good that Riot was able to think of a way to get a higher profit margin out of making a skin without charging the players extra'.

Because thats what happened. Players aren't being charged extra for anything. If you never bought the originals, these are the same value as those and just offer you a different option of equal value. If you did buy the originals and are interested in these variants, they are discounted by half.

What does Riot have to do to please you in this situation? Not making the skins at all seems to be what you're going for despite the fact that other players seem to like them and are happy to have them.

First, they don't need to create entirely new models since they are using the same weapon & particle models & using the same sound effects too.

Second, When they make a new skin for a champ at 1350 rp it always has different weapon & particle models & it uses different sound effects.

And to your last statement "What does Riot have to do to please you in this situation?" My point is that they have to do nothing to please me. That's the problem. Riot doesn't have to worry about pleasing me. Sadly, it's people like us that determine the price. We by low quality skins at high prices. We're fine with that but the majority of everyone else suffers from the high prices. I mean you do realize that $10 for a mid-tier is a bit pricey compared most other games & not to mention this game has basic graphics & the models are pretty easy to make.

Rokkitt2 votes

The point is guys this is a recycled skin. A 1350 rp skin that was recycle with a couple of changes & sold for the same price. They put in a whole lot less work to make a skin that cost the same.

It's like they refurbished used goods & sold them as brand new.

And People Die1 votes

I think the idea of alternative skin for the existing skin line is pretty neat.

The way I see it, they are intended to be an alternative purchase for the original skins - if you like the particles/sounds of these skins, you chose which version you pick up.

Also, it somewhat involves the community, these skins were roughly based on fan creations about the Star Guardian universe.

On the other end, there are people like me, who just like some champions a lot and buy both versions. I hardly even play Soraka these days, but I think she looks precious and must be protected and I needed that skin.

Rokkitt2 votes

[{quoted}](name=And People Die,realm=EUW,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=8FcpY1JK,comment-id=0001,timestamp=2018-11-25T11:21:35.639+0000)

The way I see it, they are intended to be an alternative purchase for the original skins - if you like the particles/sounds of these skins, you chose which version you pick up.

Also, it somewhat involves the community, these skins were roughly based on fan creations about the Star Guardian universe.

On the other end, there are people like me, who just like some champions a lot and buy both versions. I hardly even play Soraka these days, but I think she looks precious and must be protected and I needed that skin. This is exactly my point! Basically they can put less effort into a skin & still be able to ramp up the prices to ridicules levels.

They don't worry about the most dedicated fans & people that play the game the most. They worry about ripping off people like us that hardly use the skins we buy but will still pay whatever price they ask.

PowerBurger1 votes

I'll just take my shiny, new, and adorable Lulu skin and say thank you. <3

NashvilleLou1 votes

I'm glad to have a new Miss Fortune skin, especially with the discount for already having the Star Guardian skin. It seemed like a fair price to me.

mirAcIe1 votes

thank our Chinese overlords for buying this and paying for our free entertainment

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