An example of Riot's algorithm using the MMR system

Transcender·Nov 17, 2017·1 votes·516 views

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Feel free to use maths to prove it wrong, we would like to learn what we are doing wrong.

9 Comments

KythersNov 17, 20173 votes

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HalcyonDwellerNov 17, 20171 votes

So you've proven that multiplying a negative number by a really big number gives a really big negative number. This is not such an impressive discovery.

I don't see what this has to do with Riot, since they would know better and wouldn't implement such an obvious flaw into the math of the matchmaking system.

TranscenderNov 18, 20171 votes

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So you've proven that multiplying a negative number by a really big number gives a really big negative number. This is not such an impressive discovery.

I don't see what this has to do with Riot, since they would know better and wouldn't implement such an obvious flaw into the math of the matchmaking system.

Yeah humans wouldn't be that stupid enough to implement these systems with flaws like this, looks at dota, overwatch, smite and every other non 1v1 pvp game

HalcyonDwellerNov 18, 20171 votes

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Yeah humans wouldn't be that stupid enough to implement these systems with flaws like this, looks at dota, overwatch, smite and every other non 1v1 pvp game

Simply the possibility of it being true is not sufficient evidence to claim that it is true. All you have provided are some generic mathematical proofs, proving that math can be used in this way. Then you made some generic and vague unproven claims about other games.

There is no evidence to indicate that this applies to league of legends matchmaking at all. If you feel it is true then by all means, link us your source that shows this to be the case with league. But simply providing some formulas and proving the multiplicative equivalent of 2 + 2 = 4 is not useful for proving anything against Riot's matchmaking system.

TranscenderNov 18, 20171 votes

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Simply the possibility of it being true is not sufficient evidence to claim that it is true. All you have provided are some generic mathematical proofs, proving that math can be used in this way. Then you made some generic and vague unproven claims about other games.

There is no evidence to indicate that this applies to league of legends matchmaking at all. If you feel it is true then by all means, link us your source that shows this to be the case with league. But simply providing some formulas and proving the multiplicative equivalent of 2 + 2 = 4 is not useful for proving anything against Riot's matchmaking system.

Oh I can't prove that riot uses this formula, I just would like to trial for any team and then if they don't think i am good enough, they can turn me down.

I am from OCE and I can't get a trial for any team. So I am trying to show people what we have experienced to be how riot determines mmr.

I honestly thought the purpose of a trial was to see if a player was good enough to play at the required level, but what is the point if they are going to restrict trials to only players of a certain rank, why not just recruit them without a trial and be done with it.

HalcyonDwellerNov 19, 20171 votes

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Oh I can't prove that riot uses this formula, I just would like to trial for any team and then if they don't think i am good enough, they can turn me down.

I am from OCE and I can't get a trial for any team. So I am trying to show people what we have experienced to be how riot determines mmr.

I honestly thought the purpose of a trial was to see if a player was good enough to play at the required level, but what is the point if they are going to restrict trials to only players of a certain rank, why not just recruit them without a trial and be done with it.

Making wild claims about things unrelated to your own personal skill seems like a really roundabout way to look for a team to play tournaments with.

If you are looking for a a team to play tournaments with I recommend looking for a tournament discord server, there are several out there that frequently hold tournaments. Also it helps to post in the Player Recruitment board instead of general discussion.

DotElevenNov 17, 20171 votes

I don't know what all this means, but I do know it's missing the "DotEleven Factor" which states if that I might even start to be having fun Riot's going to fill my game with feeders and leavers.

Not even kidding, I'm 99% sure there's a button label "Give DotEleven a loss" in the middle of the building that their employees press whenever they need to let out some stress.

TranscenderNov 18, 20171 votes

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I don't know what all this means, but I do know it's missing the "DotEleven Factor" which states if that I might even start to be having fun Riot's going to fill my game with feeders and leavers.

Not even kidding, I'm 99% sure there's a button label "Give DotEleven a loss" in the middle of the building that their employees press whenever they need to let out some stress.

So you have 81.4% chance of each player on your team being worse than the enemy as well?

Zac x MeNov 18, 20171 votes

That is so wrong, I actually hacked Rito's database and here is the actual MMR and Matchmaking script:

If ( player dares to win one game ) {add 4 intentional throwers and flamers and feeders into his team and enemy team full of challengers} else {do exactly the same as above roflmaocopterscates} ;