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Advice on getting rank up from Bronze V.

Icewind11··2 votes·1,613 views

I just finished my 10 out of 10 matches in ranked to get my placements. I tried my hardest and did pretty well. I won 6 out of 10. At the end, I was placed in bronze V , now I don't know if this is some kind of joke, but 6 out of 10 wins is pretty good for solo queue. So I'm guesing no matter how good I was I'de get placed in bronze V... Anyways, My last few games that were lost I had trolls that fed and admitted they did not care about winning... So im trapped in the bronze elo with players, who don't want to actually win or get better. What do I do, are there tips or anything? I tried jungeling, Vi, Shaco and Support / Top.. My Score alone cannot win a game, no matter how hard I try. I guess im screwd until next year.

Someone in my same game who won 1 game and lost 9 and fed to make me lose, was promoted to Bronze 3 , yet someone like me who tries and puts a lot more effort and actually won 6/10 gets put in V ? Is this broken or whats going on.

52 Comments

The Sword Saint2 votes

It's seeded from last year. I was mid gold last season and went something like 4/10 in placements due to being dumb enough to play the first week of the season... and was placed silver 3.

ZACKandATTACK2 votes

Play normals until you can carry.

Angry Monster1 votes

Your placement was with only with bronze players.

bad arcade kitty1 votes

it probably takes into account your normal mmr too

3tyson1 votes

Tryndamere Annie Katarina Leblanc Heimerdinger Akali Irelia MasterYi Nasus maybe one of these guys know you should ask then

Godhri1 votes

lolol heimer as a hypercarry... yea right. He's pretty hard to use for people who aren't skilled and well bronze I'm assuming consists of low skilled players.

DontDieRespawn1 votes

My girlfriend has gotten a penta with Hiemy. It isn't about skill it's about GA, kill me with my turrets down fools.

A lot of skilled players can't carry an insta lock, I refuse to follow pick order and the go and feed. It is different in bronze I assume, a lot of people like to throw.

Godhri2 votes

that's pretty nice! But I still stand by what I said. He's really not that easy to use for newer or less experienced players. There may be the exceptions (such as your girlfriend), but I rarely see decent heimers. Even when they are decent in lane, they tend to do poorly during team fights because they use the wrong ultimate or have bad placement which is critical for heimer to fully utilize his kit. At least more so than other champions.

DontDieRespawn1 votes

Oh shit, team fight with her, we get the grenade every time for that op cc.

Icewind111 votes

Le blancs cool I guess, but her chain thing is lame... Idk about Ahri mid...

DontDieRespawn1 votes

He likes mid ok...

Akali Great burts heals like mad doing so.Katarina Great ult Watch out for hard cc.Ezreal The new item kind buffed his ap ult.Leblanc Burst and done, great escapes, chain is not needed in team fights so much.Morgana Spell vamp for heavy sustained farm.Ahri Spell vamp hard cc and true dmg

(I never play ad mid, too easy for the other team to tank with a lot of ad.)

Icewind111 votes

Mids okay, I love support though. I also love Top.

Godhri1 votes

If you really want to be safe, choose Xerath and just farm from afar while massing up AP items first to increase your farm capability. Push your lane hard with Q to force their laner back to tower. Rinse repeat.

DontDieRespawn1 votes

Yet personally ask Amumu how to win.

3tyson2 votes

yes he is bronse players dont understand this take out tower first so al you need to do is place turrets and camp turrets they will try and kill you than you stun or summoner 3 and theyl die youl get ganked but cause laner already fed you youl get dubble kil than you siege towers and win

DontDieRespawn1 votes

I love that comment so true. Farm all day the Ding dong way. item 3157 item 3026 will save the day.

3tyson1 votes

i mean sure to use heimi against players that know what there doing thats hard

but players who dont understand to take out the turrets first will just walk into them this means al you have to do is place your turrets and replace them when they break and repeat

they will even cs for you i dont see how thats hard and dont tell me go try it cause i did sure some game comes where someone picks annie and she understands aa turret first than aattack heimi and yep you will suck

but the avarage players picking lb riven and katarina will die for days

am i right hellabit ;P

Godhri2 votes

the hard part isn't placing down turrets. It's the placement of turrets (some people place them too close making it easy to aoe destroy them), the stun skill shot (kinda hard to land) and the rocket shots. Not to mention his ultimates. Knowing which ultimate to use requires extensive experience.

3tyson1 votes

you must be playing with really stupid people ( not trying to insult ) wrong placement can only go wrong once during laning phase

once you notice a champ you dont know has aoe you place them further if he doesnt you place them close thats not hard

skilshot stun isnt hard either save it for when they dive you and it wont be hard to use about the ultimate if you dont know use turret always.... it will be good ( and no were stil not talking about diamond players ) were talking about bronse players and normals

Godhri1 votes

That's not my point. My point is that people in that tier will not likely be able to use Heimer to carry games due to the complexity of his kit.

3tyson1 votes

my point is that hes not complex at al...

Godhri1 votes

Well I see we won't be reaching an agreement so I'll just end this here. I stand by my point as I'm sure you stand by yours.

3tyson1 votes

that seems akwardly reasonable for people who play lol :P

DontDieRespawn1 votes

Counter pick do not pick your best champ pick a counter. I just won 4 in a row in B5 I am up for my promo. If you do not understand all of the Champions, you need to learn them. The only way to kill and not be killed is know thy enemy.

Keep the game fun, rage does not win games it will be you downfall. It become 1v9, not 5v5, I have preached that for years, before I played ranked queue.

Be helpful, yet try not to offend. Help with peoples builds if they aren't building right. Help your team and yourself counter build.

If you can fill any position do it, you give someone a better chance at the one they main.

If you have a gg with someone it doesn't hurt to ask to duo the next.

bad arcade kitty4 votes

{quoted}

Counter pick do not pick your best champ pick a counter.

it's a bad advice. a player who plays his favorite champ wins a player who barely even touched the counterpick of that favorite champ

Godhri2 votes

mmm not necessarily. Given enough experience playing this game, a player who has sufficiently learned the fundamentals to this game can apply that to all champions and be able to utilize the counter picking option. Granted they won't do as well with a champion they use more often, it is still better to counter pick in some cases. An example is something like a Malzahar vs a Katarina. Clearly the Malzahar has the advantage here because two of his abilities are able to disable katarina and rend her useless for a long period of time allowing Malz to utilize his full kit before she can do much at all. Or Malz vs Ahri where it is pretty much the same situation but it is even worse for Ahri as she doesn't have level scaling base MR.

DontDieRespawn1 votes

I love doing that to a Kat. ^_^ If I jung and see kat was picked, hard cc Amumu, or Malphite.

DontDieRespawn1 votes

The rest of my comment summed up, learn every champion to be able to counter pick and fight. I had a friend tell me do not play ranked until you learn all of the champions, I do very well now that I can counter pick and play the role right.

[Edit] I have seen more people lose with their favorite champion then not, because he/she was not a counter.

Icewind111 votes

I've been playing since 2011 and bronze V... I continue to get games where players feed... I understand the champions and what they all do and how they'll play since I've been playing for so long, I try to counter pick but sometimes they pick champions that you cannot counter or I don't pick after them.

DontDieRespawn1 votes

Pick someone op and you can carry the game. Serious, if you can pick a counter that wrecks face, like Fiora, do it and win the game.

Godhri2 votes

every champion has a counter or at least a safe pick against.

DontDieRespawn1 votes

Also in champion select for the love of god swap with people, first pick wants mid... Fine lock someone in for me, so you can counter I will take support so you can have mid. Don't say I am picking Brand and that's the end of the story, use strategy, or stay in Bronze. I see this too often, part of the reason people stay in Bronze, they do not know how to play all champions and auto lock their favorite to a counter pick. I will carry hard, but that need to be Brand mid ends up feeding.

Renaille2 votes

{quoted}

Counter pick do not pick your best champ pick a counter.

No. Pick a champion you're good at instead of a champion you barely play.

The best way to rank up is to pick one or two champions to exclusively play because it is better to perfect one than focus on many. High elo is filled with tons of one trick ponies because of this.

DontDieRespawn1 votes

Apparently you didn't read... (Learn all of the champs, so you can counter pick.) I guess I just get good with everyone I learn, so I don't have a best champion to relate to the concept barley play. I can barley play anyone and still kick ass and take names later, as long as I know what to do with them. A tank is a tank, fighter a fighter, ap is an ap and so on. Counter build with your counter pick, or if you are countered learn the persons play style to adapt, gg.

If you can not play every champion with the same skill level as any other that is just odd. Say they ban your best champion second and third, good luck.

DeloricVI1 votes

I hate to say it but in ranked, you're going to have to carry if you want a guaranteed one-way ticket out of "elo hell." You know that half the people you get in soloqueue couldn't carry their ammo without dropping it on their foot, let alone carry the game. So, in other words, I advise picking up a champion, preferably someone that does well on mid or adc, and get good, get some practice in. Make sure you pick one that a lot of people say is "Viable" because they're probably right. Try not to pick characters that are banned constantly too; Katarina may be strong in soloqueue, but she's been banned in pretty much every game I've played in ranked thus far, so... probably not a good decision to have her be your go-to champion.

Trust me, I'm currently learning this lesson the hard way. I want to play Sion jungle, but Sion jungle doesn't deal enough damage to carry a game all by himself, and if you have a carry in bot and mid, neither of which can secure a kill... you have problems. So, until I can get to an elo where Sion is a thing, then I'll have to pick someone who can carry me up to silver. I personally picked Jinx because of her kit, so be sure to pick a champ that you can understand easily and that goes with your playstyle (e.g. if you like going all in, don't pick Ashe as an adc, and if you like having escape options don't play low-mobility champs like Fiora).

If you want suggestions for who to pick up I'm sure I could try to point you in the right direction :)

Icewind111 votes

I'm very good at top lane, and do well. But , people always always pick top lane. Literately, 9/10 games the "first pick" guy picks top lane instant locks it. This is rather annoying because they're not even that skilled. They feed mostly and will not carry ... So someone who does that lane much more efficiently doesn't get the chance to win the game.

I'm always last pick, or near last so I never get a chance to play a role that I am better at... (Top, Mid). I get stuck with roles I do not do well with (Jng , support).

DeloricVI1 votes

In that case, I recommend practicing as those roles, and picking a champion that can carry for each. For support this is very difficult, but I hear that Karma can build carry as a support and do very well. In my experience, Lulu and Lux also scale very well into the late game.

For jungle, there are lots of champs that can carry from there. For instance, Wukong, Hecarim, Master Yi, and Warwick.

I know it kinda sucks at this point, not being able to play the champion you want, but once you get out of Bronze, you can usually play your favorites without being destroyed for it.

If you're problem is also being last pick, then that's just bad luck... eventually it'll turn around, I'm sure.

Jaygo411 votes

Play AD carry, best way to climb low ELO ADs are pretty ass honestly as i've started to find in my climb back towards gold

Fizz is not Fish1 votes

i had spectated some bronze v matches. maybe just learn more about this game ? i saw a vayne gave the point to w at lv1 and tryd/yi went line with a item 1051.

i was placed to low silver in 2 seasons, not too good.

EDIT:

yes, i am bad at adc, only play jinx/ez if forced to and never play vayne. if anything wrong, sorry. i cant really understand vayne w at lv1. maybe you want to farm, but your enemy will not.

Godhri2 votes

a vayne with 1 in W at level 1 isn't a bad thing. Clearly her goal was to farm first. It also works as a good harassing device if you have a rune build that emphasizes attack speed.

You could technically start with any Q, W or E skill on Vayne depending on your early game goals.

DontDieRespawn1 votes

I do not see the problem in farming with first pick w, if they get too aggressive stay near tower. Hell anyone with a skill shot can't do anything if you stay behind minions, no need to roll if you play right. As for the crit item that is just a throw item to start with I will agree with that.

Icewind111 votes

I notice a lot of you telling me to carry,but that is not a option. Top lane is ALWAYS called first, by people who feed or are unskilled. It's ALWAYS picked first, if someone picks before me, they lock top. Or mid, and im usually last pick. So carryings out of option.

Sir Yamazuki1 votes

Main support, then proceed to pick a mage support and build sight stone then AP/Pen. I suggest Zyra or Brand. Harass from range constantly and in team fights you shred teams even with no items. Either you or the adc getting fed is good.

The rest will depend on your decision making, it's possible to solo carry in Bronze, especially Bronze 5.

RogueWill1 votes

First a couple of pointers. On placement you play with other players f your same mmr and then you move forward or downward depending if you win or lose. The first game decides by itself around 70% of what will be the higher ranked you will be placed, if you lose your first game chances are that you will be put in really low elo as the next matches will be much easier to you.

Second, don't counterpick unless you are really comfortable with the counter. I would suggest getting 5-6 champions and play them exclusively. I know is not always possible but playing at most 3 roles is also a good idea. You are trying to become really good with a few champions and roles instead of average with a broader number. If done correctly you will be able to to go against counters with relatively ease.

Third, if you are ahead, push objectives, if you are mid, take your tower and the roam top and take top tower. A single player can carry a team on mid game if he forces the game to end fast. If you are jungle, don't return to jungle as soon as you got a successful gank. As longs as it is safe push the lane and get a few hit on turrets, destroy it if possible. The outer turrets are actually what most gold give.

Fourth, if you are jungler forget about dragon until min 20-25 unless you plan to get all 5 dragons (which is almost impossible without team cooperation). The dragon buffs are almost unnoticeable until that point anyway and taking it early will set you back as a jungler for a whole level. keep it warded thou as a smite steal won't set you back as much.

Icewind111 votes

I really like mid laning as Heimerdinger , I usually dominate my lane with that champion. I do really good with him, but I won't be allowed to play him every game since mid is a role people take a lot.

RogueWill1 votes

Heimerdinger can also be used as top laner quite effectively and if you are forced into top you should take him as you are already good with him. On that low level ello a single champion can pull you out if your mechanics and knowledge of such champions are high enough.

Icewind111 votes

Yea he's just so fun to troll on, place all 3 turrents, use zhonys, use ult turrent. I use my turrents tactile and move around them to Kite my enemies. I also use my turrents to take down the enemy turrets and backdoor.

Backdooring is better then defending when its 5 pushing your lane. Because me backdooring makes pressure peeled off of the middle lane, they'll see me tearing into their base, and all come back , or a few come back. I'll be gaining objectives rather then going mid and dieing.

Sadly people are reporting me for playing like this, playing (strategically) rather then doing what they would do...

Br4ndon1 votes

Always push objectives. Dont chase kills, dont dives towers, dont try to cheese. Pick something youre good at not something someone suggested or whats OP this month(unless its normals, thats where you play to get good mechanically with the champion to become comfortable with). But always push objectives. Remember: towers dont respawn, champions do.

The goal is to destroy an objective not to kill champions. if you end the game 0/10/0 but you destroyed 6 towers, 2 inhibs and a nexus then your deaths didnt really amount to much for the enemy.

While counter picking would be a good idea, its best just to play something youre familiar with. Your mechanics wont be as good with a champion you played for the first time oppose to a champion youve been playing for a few weeks or months.

I went from gold 4 to plat 5 in about a week just spamming soraka with a bit of morgana. While i know soraka is a horrible pick into some situations, its better than me picking a champion im not familiar with and doing bad while not knowing what im doing. If i have a rough game with soraka, i still know my limits and how to come back.

But the most important rules are: -Push objectives -Dont over commit to anything -Well placed warding (dont go and ward your red while your team is pushing around their red, no important information is at your red) -Play what youre comfortable with

DanofDemacia1 votes

I went 4/10 and got bronze 1 currently in silver 5

SleepyLionCub1 votes

Pick MasterYi

Get bitches

go 41/2 every game till you hit silver and he becomes useless

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