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Riot Please. don't change Brand that much in 6.9

Vaelentino··2 votes·950 views

Ok, by changing Brand by changing his passive changes the whole appeal of playing him altogether. He's not fast. Everyone knows Brand is slow, so you have to land a straight line skill shot after connecting with another first to get the stun. Which in lies the appeal. If you can land the skillshot you're good. But it's very high risk, high payoff. If you miss you're done.

Especially in fighting other mid laners like Annie, Orianna, Viktor, Ahri, Malzahar, Fizz, Katarina, Leblanc, Zed, and Yasuo. (I feel like I'm forgetting some of Brand's even harder counters that I've never won against). I have absolutely face rolled all of those champs, but I have also been entirely face rolled, and basically taken out of some games by early punishings. My point being, everybody ALREADY counters Brand so why take away his only method of kiting?

So basically, if you continue this path entirely and remove that stun, you're taking away the only thing that gives Brand a 50/50 shot against a lot of strong mid laners.

You even admit that you're taking away some of his 1v1 power? At least it's a combination of two skills in a row, with the second being the ability to land a skill shot just to STAY ALIVE, not a press "q, w, e, or r" once to win or catch an Ahri charm right to face to die horribly.

Please, change him any way you want just don't take his stun. You might as well take him out of the game because why would anyone play a solo mid laner who can't even be forced to land a MISSABLE skillshot after another ability is landed just to stay alive, he just has to wait for his opponent to face roll him now.

You're about to change the main reason why I play this game. :(

20 Comments

Caítlyn5 votes

What the hell are you talking about? Nobody is taking away his stun.

Akenero4 votes

His stun isn't going away. Just being shortened.

Vaelentino1 votes

so, make his mobility/kiting worse by taking his stun when it's already fair in how unsafe it is to miss the skillshot?

Vaelentino1 votes

and where does it say it's being shortened? I read that they are removing the passive of landing two skills in succession, you have to land two in succession to proc the stun.

Abyssphere1 votes

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and where does it say it's being shortened? I read that they are removing the passive of landing two skills in succession, you have to land two in succession to proc the stun.

You're complaining about changes that you've not even bothered to read properly?

FACE THE WlND2 votes

Lol...

Vaelentino1 votes

But judging by your name, I bet you've been rekt by a Brand or two in mid lane while playing Yasuo

FACE THE WlND2 votes

I said lol because they're not removing the stun... It's being shortened, that's it. I've actually never lost lane to Brand as Yasuo, that being said I primarily take Yasuo top.

Vaelentino1 votes

Where does it say his stun is being shortened? They are removing the passive, so the on hit if already ignited by the passive for Brand's q no longer functions like it did before.

If they just give u a stun by landing a q, that also rewires a kit that already has a high skill cap BECAUSE of having to chain abilities to achieve CC.

FACE THE WlND2 votes

Sear (Q) Stun duration lowered to 1.5s from 2s Damage lowered to 80/110/140/170/200 from 80/120/160/200/240 AP ratio lowered to .55 from .65

Functions the same, duration just lowered. You can keep downvoting me if it makes you feel better, I'm just trying to help you.

Vaelentino1 votes

I read that they are removing the passive, so regardless activating the stun's mechanisms are going to be different. So q is just going to be a stun without chaining?

FACE THE WlND2 votes

No, it's exactly the same as before. Blaze is still a part of Brand's passive. Brand's Q tooltip states that if it hits a target that is ablaze, that target will be stunned for 2 seconds, which is being reduced to 1.5 seconds.

Vaelentino1 votes

not so bad then, when i read they were changing his passive and admitted to decreasing his 1v1 power, i assumed they were replacing on hit effects with a %health dmg passive. I must have read an older article on whats coming in 6.9 then.

I really thought they were breaking Brand

Bijorn1 votes

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not so bad then, when i read they were changing his passive and admitted to decreasing his 1v1 power, i assumed they were replacing on hit effects with a %health dmg passive. I must have read an older article on whats coming in 6.9 then.

I really thought they were breaking Brand

LOL. Why assume when EVERYTHING is online and has been stated?

Vaelentino1 votes

It's being switched to a %health dmg passive for chaining, rather than proc'ing his abilities as they were for chains

SaltyKracka3 votes

You're being an idiot.

What's happening is that they're lowering Brand's standalone passive damage in exchange for giving it a big AOE combo finisher if he gets three hits from his spells on an opponent.

This wouldn't be a problem if you could actually fucking read, though.

legionnaire992 votes

Are you saying he is hard to play? Lol

Vaelentino1 votes

I'm saying he will not ever be a viable mid/sup pick again if you take his stun.

Vaelentino1 votes

bump, this needs more vision.

Bijorn1 votes

I am a Brand main since S2.

His passive is being changed to lowered burn damage (from 8% per second for 4 seconds to 2% per second for 4 seconds).

The changes on his Q:

  • Stun length 2s -> 1.5s.
  • Damage lowered to 80/110/140/170/200
  • AP ratio lowered to .55.

His Q was nerfed in every single way possible BUT it still has its stun. So I have NO idea what the hell you are talking about. Maybe you should actually read what his changes are before posting.

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