.: DO NOT BUY/SPEND RP :.

ToxicShaco·11/14/2017, 5:21:54 PM·441 votes·44,225 views

Before preseason update we were told that the new BE/Capsule system was going to be equivalent, if not better, than the old IP system. In 2-3 levels I have acquired less than 2000 BE. Before this update I could have easily had 3000+ IP.

Myself and many others have agreed not to buy/spend any RP until something is done to bridge the gap between the new BE system and the old IP system.

JOIN US IN OUR FIGHT!

If our voices will not be heard, then let us hit them where it hurts the most!

Here are a few suggested solutions to bridge the intended gap that Riot has put into play.

Bonus BE per level (aside from what's in capsules)
Increase BE per capsule
Give BE/IP per game
Get rid of this terrible BE system all together

.....will continue to update.

396 Comments

RiotRiot Cactopus11/14/2017, 7:25:22 PM116 votes

Hey ToxicShaco,

I see that you're actually only level 21. I've got good news for ya. We redesigned the 1–30 leveling curve specifically to give out more BE overall, and we even published the EXACT numbers to prove it. Once you check out the post, you'll see charts that show you exactly how much BE each level up to 30 will give out, along with estimates of how many games it'll take you to get there.

We also showed in that post how we also made leveling 1–30 faster in the new system. So the change actually is a win-win for you.

We're going to spread the information in this post a lot more widely so more folks like you can see for themselves how the new system is better. Sorry about the confusion!

PePsiLemoNN11/14/2017, 6:08:40 PM61 votes

JOIN US IN OUR FIGHT! If our voices will not be heard, then let us hit them where it hurts the most!

This is too cringy even for these boards.

Très Pauvre11/14/2017, 6:43:59 PM44 votes

I've said this in another post but I'll go ahead and say it again.

It really isn't about whether or not the system is for or against the average user (I've seen the math and it does not take into account later levels and increased xp needs. However, you can also argue later levels don't matter because at that point you should have everything unlocked that isn't cosmetic). What this is really about is HOW BAD THIS DESIGN FEELS. Locking a currency based system behind an xp leveling grind is TERRIBLE DESIGN. It is incredibly slow and the build up to the reward is frustrating. Especially when you pop open that crate and you get a bunch of garbage you already had that will disenchant for peanuts. I've gotten the worst possible drops both levels and that shit feels bad.

I do not own all of the champions just yet and it is going to take awhile to acquire them. Not to mention because instead of gradual constant gain BE is locked behind a decent number of games, an ever INCREASINGLY LARGER number of games. I could need 1 BE to unlock a champion but in order to do so I'll have to level up all over again. Which for all intents and purposes increases the amount of games necessary to unlock champions. Instead of the 4 levels needed to acquire the BE for that champ looks like its gonna be 5 and depending on how high level you are that could potentially be a large number of additional games required.

This design feels bad whether or not it is in benefit of anyone or not.

SirΤeemο11/14/2017, 5:33:48 PM35 votes

in 3 levels i got 1300 BE :/

Penns11/14/2017, 5:27:34 PM28 votes

Revert assassin update

and ill join the fite :]

Doctor Fillgood11/14/2017, 7:41:35 PM9 votes

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Before preseason update we were told that the new BE/Capsule system was going to be equivalent, if not better, than the old IP system. In 2-3 levels I have acquired less than 2000 BE. Before this update I could have easily had 3000+ IP.

Myself and many others have agreed not to buy/spend any RP until something is done to bridge the gap between the new BE system and the old IP system.

JOIN US IN OUR FIGHT!

If our voices will not be heard, then let us hit them where it hurts the most!

Here are a few suggested solutions to bridge the intended gap that Riot has put into play.

Bonus BE per level (aside from what's in capsules)

Increase BE per capsule

Give BE/IP per game

Get rid of this terrible BE system all together

.....will continue to update.

I won't be investing in a company that I feel like is moving in a casino direction. I've dumped plenty of money into my account thus far, but I feel like the changes made now just feel horrible. I hope something changes, I really do.

Raije11/14/2017, 5:39:25 PM5 votes

Uh, in 2-3 levels? That's a huge difference, is it 2 or 3 levels? Do you not know? Also, that's a really small sample size. The BE system is fine. The numbers might need adjusting, but it's the same basic system as the IP one, but just bunched together.