Being up 5 solos against a 3-man premade with MMR advantage STILL sucks.

Dessem·Jun 22, 2016·46 votes·1,406 views

I don't think it's fair when MMR both gives one team a 3-man premade AND stacks higher MMR on that side against the other team. If Dynamic Queue is meant to stack the odds so a 5-solo team can win 50/50 against a 3-man premade 2-solo team, then it needs to stop putting the higher MMR players on the premade team. It's a serious flaw, Riot.

I get that League is more fun with friends, but it's not fun when it's at the expense of those of us who want to play without the hassle of socialising. I didn't play Ranked for all the competition and whatnot primarily; I played it because it placed me on level playing ground with my opponents.

Now, there's no place where I can escape the 3+ premades. And no place where I can make friends to premade with either.

I'm unhappy, Riot.

12 Comments

All SkillzzJun 23, 20168 votes

i watched my friend play a game yesterday, his team was 120 mmr behind the enemy team that had a premade, they was all plat 1/2 and his entire team was gold 1/plat 4 as highest. lol i watched the game the skill lvl was beyond stupid. his team died twice a min the game was 0-6 by 4 mins which is dumb because the game stats laning at 2 mins lol. ya and top and jungle was duo so his top had no chance with the constant camp.

LeonerdoJun 23, 20164 votes

Two things.

The system is not designed to give the premade an MMR advantage. Actually the opposite is true. If you were matched against a premade with better MMR, either your MMR evaluation was flawed, or the system had to make a poor match because no better matchups were available and y'all had been in queue for a while already.

There are plenty of places to find premades to play with. For instance, when you start a premade lobby, the client suggests people to play with; often times including people not even on your friends list. There's also a Team Recruitment board as you can see in the navigation bar on the left.

Blue Moon WolfJun 23, 20163 votes

Rito: We hear you, that's why we are going to be giving you badges that say you like to play solo. That should even things out, right :D

(Seriously though... badges... why would they even think that would help solo players feel better about being solo?)

Johr DinhJun 23, 20162 votes

That really aggravated me. I like a solo rank, but I could care less about a badge. I play Ranked for a level playing field, and it hasn't felt that way since DQ...shit I didn't even like Solo/Duo but i'll take that over full DQ any day of the week lol.

ShinkoMinoriJun 22, 20161 votes

http://boards.na.leagueoflegends.com/en/c/gameplay-balance/qix4hawM-how-to-reach-gold-in-dynamic-queue-dynamic-queue-survival-guide?show=flat&page=2

Mr FidoriJun 23, 20162 votes

Stop posting this.

Karn BishopJun 23, 20161 votes

True it does suck but i can at least tolerate 3 mans, it is 4 mans and 5 mans that make me truly ill with anger.

BloodyTomponJun 23, 20161 votes

It doesn't do this, it does the exact opposite. The team with pre-mades have the sum of their MMR + an offset. Solo players do not have the offset. Basically it's this

MMR_premade + offset = MMR_Solo

To balance this, the sum of solo MMR is higher.

The DeckownerJun 23, 20162 votes

Except in real practice often times solo team end up facing premade with higher mmr, the system fucks up very frequently,

DessemJun 23, 20161 votes

It should do the exact opposite. Sadly, that hasn't been true for me often lately.

KouheyJun 23, 20161 votes

The funny part is that they don't even guanrantee a MMR advantage to the side with more solos, I just played one game with 4 other solo whose MMR are all legit diamond 3, where as the enemy has a trio, consisting 2 of the recently banned master/challenger, they do sit at diamond 5 at the time, but their record was literally 30 and 1. Now Riot, you either tell me you think their MMR is below my team because I have all the solos while they have two 30-1 which makes 0 fucking sense, or OK let's pretend we have the same MMR, they are still matchmade against 5 solos as a trio??????????

LatetotheRaceJun 23, 20161 votes

I love the logic behind their "solution" though. Oh, there is a premade? Well we'll just put them up against BETTER players. This isn't good match making, as you're playing against people who are strictly better than you.... Is.... how does that make sense....