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Why are people banned for playing singed support ?

xkillertenzo··11 votes·9,185 views

So people are getting banned from playing singed it does not break the summoners code i have never tried it but i will eventually
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It never said you cant play off meta picks but i want a rioter to explain why this phenomena is happening when you are not limited to what champion you can pick for any role

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Laz19737 votes

This is baloney.

The meta should be in place because it's the best and only way to win a game. If someone can win a normal amount of games with a non-meta pick, then so be it-- let them play. Their win rate will affect their position like everyone else, so either you have a fair chance to win with this guy on your team, or you won't have to see him in your league very long.

I sometimes play Sion and I do the same thing: go steal a buff (let it kill me), and then run back out with my buff still intact. Sometimes my team troll me "Sion, wtf" etc. But that's because they DO NOT understand.

So here's the thing. This guy posts paragraphs before the game explaining what he's trying to do and how. And he wins. Communication? check. Playing to win? Check.

Banning this is really just an attempt to corral people into playing the game Riot wants, when they've failed to set up the game to make that necessary.

Boo, Riot. That's lame.

xkillertenzo3 votes

Similar to what im trying to say whats the point of playing this game anymore when you can play who you want to play its like life whats the point of living if you cant choose what you want to choose

Scionic Rampage6 votes

You realize they got banned because they were jungling as they selected the support role.

He however wasn't banned for playing singed.

xkillertenzo4 votes

Summoners code has stated that you cannot be banned for filling 2 roles in a game read it as much as you want but its either the code is outdated or people wont accept the truth it applies to normal and SoloQ you can contact a riot employee and i have done it in the past and i was told you cannot be banned for picking your desired champion in your desired role contact them for yourself and see the same answer or similar. What is bannable is AFKing/Toxic Behaviour/Racism/ETC.

TopHat Owl5 votes

He isn't Jungling though. His strat. is a level 1 invade and then contiues to play like a normal suppor with smite (which has arguable merrets). Riot banning for players inovating within their game is like them telling their community: 'You either play what I like or you don't play at all' which is a really stupid thing to enforce onto their player base as it takes the fun of playing non meta pick.

wolfgod2223 votes

The fact that league only gives the option to not have two top or other just proves that they are forcing the meta even though they say they aren't not saying I dont support that they enforce that role meta but im saying i dont support that they say they dont enforce meta when they obviously do second is going support running in the jungle for a minute and counter jungling isnt playing jungle its actually really supporting because he's helping his whole team by forcing the enemy jungle to be lower leveled and pushed back that supports his whole team another thing is the fact riot was saying he wasnt communicating to his team is a blantent lie because theres screen shots from him and some of his teammates that every game that he goes singed support and counter jungles he tells his adc that he is doing that and he will be roaming so the fact he's banned actually is a problem that league of legends seems to be taking to much power sometimes and not following there own policies and im not saying this because of this instance i have a friend who was permantly banned ( he is still trying to get it lifted ) but he has emailed them multiple times and they've refused to say what rule he broke

Ratpocalypse1 votes

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You realize they got banned because they were jungling as they selected the support role.

He however wasn't banned for playing singed.

The support role does not say "Support Bot Lane" so your argument makes no sense as he should be allowed to play support from the Top, Mid, Jungle, or Bot.

In the video below you can see that as long as your teammates don't communicate(rage) AT you for picking off meta you can have some success.

https://youtu.be/n4-jZylsbRE

warpenguin5554 votes

He was banned for jungling when he got support. Not for playing singed

xkillertenzo3 votes

No he was never banned i was just showing what a jungle singe player looks like

warpenguin5551 votes

earlier this morning a guy was banned for it(or thats when people started posting about it). That wasnt the same guy?

Çhåryzård3 votes

From what I understand he picked Support but would constantly leave his adc alone to go farm, which is refusing to communicate and well...not playing the role he selected. If you pick support you're expected to stay with your adc most of the time and help them survive the laning phase

xkillertenzo7 votes

From what you said the summoners code never said you had to constantly be with your ADC which means it isnt a bannable offense Its either the code is outdated or 90% of people just ignored it but probably the reason why some singes are getting banned is because theyre being toxic to all chat thats a possible reason

Çhåryzård2 votes

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From what you said the summoners code never said you had to constantly be with your ADC which means it isnt a bannable offense Its either the code is outdated or 90% of people just ignored it but probably the reason why some singes are getting banned is because theyre being toxic to all chat thats a possible reason

If you pick support and then constantly leave your adc to fight a 2v1 so you can farm you are NOT playing the role you picked and if you do it enough you are ruining people's games. That's why he got reported and punished.

xkillertenzo4 votes

He was never punished he keeps playing what he does and hes platinum ATM hes just a example

Skia Asteri3 votes

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He was never punished he keeps playing what he does and hes platinum ATM hes just a example

It is the same player as the one that video shows. You can go look up the discussion where they were told why they were banned; just know in the explanation it said that playing support Singed in and of itself is not a ban worthy offense.

xkillertenzo2 votes

He is still playing atm and he does this everygame all he was is just a example

mommys guy3 votes

you do know who bard is right?

Sona Ping2 votes

Bard players don't build talisman, counter-jungle their own team, and falsely report all their teammates for intentional feeding.

wolfgod2223 votes

Really because he let his adc know he was going to roam and saying you HAVE TOO 2v2 bot is just enforcing META that riot says they dont enforce but they really do because if someone goes off meta does something different even if they win and someone reports them for it it seems that even though they followed all the policies they STILL GET BANNED for false reasoning

Çhåryzård1 votes

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Really because he let his adc know he was going to roam and saying you HAVE TOO 2v2 bot is just enforcing META that riot says they dont enforce but they really do because if someone goes off meta does something different even if they win and someone reports them for it it seems that even though they followed all the policies they STILL GET BANNED for false reasoning

There's a difference between going an off meta pick and just not playing the role you selected.

Yea, you can not 2v2 bot, but it makes it much harder on your adc to 2v1 and farm while you go off to farm yourself.

There's a difference between a Bard going off to jg to get his charms, and a support singed going off to farm. Supports don't farm, and especially don't leave TO farm.

Riot says its ok to go off meta picks, but to select a role and deliberately not play your role is a problem. I SINCERELY DOUBT he wouldve gotten reported if people DIDN'T have a problem with him doing it. The fact that he got in trouble shows that people didn't like it, and if your LANE PARTNER doesn't want you going off and leaving them in a constant 2v1 then you don't do it. Your "off meta" reasoning doesn't apply here, its an entire role, not a champion.

I main support, but if I'm adcing and my support says they are going to leave to go farm and I'm stuck fighting a 2v1 while trying to stay safe and get my own farm I'd have a huge problem with it. Obviously others have had an issue with it to, and it had to have been problematic for a while for Riot to say something.

TricolorStar3 votes

Let's get something straight: Play the role you are given.

You can break the meta all you want, but if you have support,** play like a support.** Help your ADC, lane with them, and protect them. Do not steal camps, build jungle items instead of vision items, leave your ADC alone while you counter-jungle, and refuse to listen to your team. This guy did all of that. He's getting banned because he did not do what a support is supposed to do, not because he plays Singed.

xkillertenzo2 votes

Ahem. http://na.op.gg/summoner/userName=AdellaideSkyhart his recent game was 40 minutes never was banned was just a example

R2PewPew3 votes

The issue I have, is Riot trying to box everyone into a role, and as such have gone and given those roles names which players have got accustomed to. If you are accepting those prescribed roles then you will be upset is someone goes "off script" in your opinion.

If a team wants to run a three-man mid and one top one bot they should be allowed to, it might now work but hey. Who do Riot think they are to prescribe how a team should be made up, and more importantly where they should play on the map. Are we going to start banning the Mid laner who roam top or Bard for getting chimes too?

If I am stealing from the enemy Jungler i am helping my team. (Singe Supp) If I am zoning the enemy I am helping my team. (Ziggs Supp) The fact that I do/don't buying a sight stone should be irrelevant. If I communicate my strategy to the team they know what coming, what is the problem? The fact that the "ADC" has to work harder will ruffle some feathers. (Once again because of the now indoctrinated roles)

And that brings me to my next point: Riot loves the ADC, MID, and Top roles and in my opinion pamper them. They are the flashy butt-kicking guys who get the epic kills. But Ranged ADC's are some of the softest in the game, and now someone has to go support to help the ADC play what they want, no fair in my humble opinion. I do not think they know what to do with support and jungle roles (plants - REALLY Riot??) They have designated these roles and players mostly dislike playing support, and jungle is a backup role for most.

Now along comes this guy who is helping his team win 53% of the time, but he is not playing the Riot approved META, and out comes the suspension stick. He is within the summoner’s code and it his right as a player to play what he feels comfortable with.

Way-To-Go on the double standards Riot.

I am truly saddened by this state of affairs.

DarkMind04371 votes

Let me say this he is NOT being threaten to be banned for not following the meta. He is being threaten to be banned for making his teammates not enjoying the game. The summoners code states that you may enjoy the game however you want but not at the expense of your teammates.

if you still don't believe me here's another part of the summoners code

                              4

Enjoy Yourself, but not at Anyone Else's Expense

"Short is the joy that guilty pleasure brings." -Euripides

Making games is our business, so it should come as no surprise that we want you to have a lot of fun. We want you to get excited, to have tension-filled moments, and to celebrate your success. This doesn't mean that we're okay with you ruining anybody else's day.

Remember, taking a jab at your friend in the middle of the game is a lot different than making a glib remark at a complete stranger. Someone who is unfamiliar with what you consider playful may take your comment as an attack and react unfavorably. If two players on a team start fighting, good communication and teamwork become nearly impossible. Once communication breaks down, the likelihood of victory is drastically diminished. It isn't uncommon for simple, good natured teasing to spiral out of control into a loss, so do yourself a favor and don't run the risk of sabotaging your own success.

http://gameinfo.na.leagueoflegends.com/en/game-info/get-started/summoners-code/ here's even the link to it.

xkillertenzo2 votes

FYI the video is a singed who plays support/jungle singed in silver/plat

WhaiiSoSerious2 votes

cause he's not a support and he literally has no gap closer and his poison takes cs from your carry. Those are 3 very good reasons why you shouldn't support as singed.

Characters like singed get countered very easily. Especially if they have a support with a lot of hard cc. I mean imagine a janna bot vs a singed bot lol. You're asking for a lost there.

xkillertenzo1 votes

When his team are ALL chatting being toxic? He carries games why listen to a toxic team when you can mute them all

Krizalisz1 votes

Riot is a dog he forget afetr a lot of fucking money is a game not a fucking follow my shit this is a dog move and they are totaly tards to tell you how can you play -.- fu ck your riot i play whenthis shit come out from beta and now i hope you guys see how is game is betetr play dota smite or any multiplayer game then this shit . Play a game what you like when you like not how fucking riot told you to play is not a game anymore.

Caethasis1 votes

So if I get a sightstone and somewhat lane with Singed support I wont get banned? cuz so far im farely successful with Singed Support . I get smite and level 1 invade , sometimes counter jungle . I havnt gotten a single complaint from my team yet so should i be fine?

DarkMind04371 votes

As long as your team mates don't mind you using that tactic or going singed support and your adc is fine with 1v2ing for a little bit you should be fine

Ratpocalypse1 votes

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As long as your team mates don't mind you using that tactic or going singed support and your adc is fine with 1v2ing for a little bit you should be fine

By this logic I can also report players for playing meta if I don't want to? If that's the case then okay.

Ratpocalypse1 votes

I wish people would follow

"Enjoy Yourself, but not at Anyone Else's Expense"

People should stop playing 1-1-1-2 at my expense, as I enjoy the double jungle strategy. I'm not opposed to trying other strategies I just refuse to play 1-1-1-2 as it dwindles my enjoyment of the game.

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