@Malicious Metal So about Morde and Liandry's

It's obvious why when you see the damage that is being dealt in the video. It's meant to show the maximum power of the ability, obviously this won't happen like it's shown in the clip during a game.

Let's put it this way. Let's say that I grab liandry's first item and am still in lane. If I have glacial augment on, I can literally deal 120% of my opponents health in magic damage entirely with my ult and glacial augment. When you add my other burst to that, there's simply no counterplay in the early game without extreme heals and shields or a solid gank. Fast-forward to a late game team fight. I ult the enemy tank, pop my abilities on them, and that should deal all their health in damage without factoring in magic resist. If they have a shielding or healing support, the support has to choose between protecting squishies or their tank. Either way, I'm doing so much damage to that tank that they simply can't deal with it. It worth noting that an enemy team can sort of counter this. If the tank gets good magic resist and an adaptive helm with minimal bonus health and a healer/shielder on them, they can stay alive with ease. However, that means that the adc will obliterate them, so there you go. Oh, and let's not forget that his ult will give him a vlad-level heal while all of those fights are happening. Overall, needs a wee bit of a nerf I think, but I do like that morde is a bit stronger now. I mader my point, covered most bases I could think of, etc. The video was not exaggerated to absolute extreme, and the context holds for all champions. (I'm an m7 morde btw, so I know what I'm talking about.)

But how many champs can actually afford to build these things without giving up something very important they were meant to have instead,......meant to as in balanced around having.

Cleanse/qss/shields/lifesteal/heals are not available to many champions given their builds, as many still lack build flexibility.

Are you saying that those ones should just never go anywhere near mordekaiser?

There is also the point that those things are already barely covering the already considerably high damage in the game......

I am not a big fan on the idea of abilities that you absolutely must use an item to counter, it feels like one forces or is forced to build an item that may or may not be awful given your champion just to even stand a chance.

Against 1 single enemy champ.

I always found Malzahar,zed,lissandra (whenever her damage is good for some reason) and others to be pretty toxic because of that kind of mechanic in their kit.

Of course, if said abilities have high cool downs then fine, then it's a significant investment on their part to use said ability, but Riot have this tendency to let all kinds abilities have very low cooldowns post some point, like Zed whose ulti reaches 44 seconds or malz who goes down to a minute.

How are you supposed to punish their ability usage when it's basically available whenever you fight but the only counter has 3 times the cool down

#Edit"

Oh and cleanse does not remove any dots beside ignite!

{quoted}

Depends on how much Magic resist you have. Sometimes it's wiser to just run and take the R only. Come back after R is out and your Warmog's has recovered you. The rest of his kit isn't intimidating late game at all.

which is why i said full hp build cho. while cho can build defenses as a tank cho doesnt want to build that he has a very strong bruiser kit. which requires him not to build 3 hp/magic resist items to work.