@Riot I feel you ignore the Supports :(

Warden Karma··3 votes·700 views

Hello Summoners and Member Riots :(

For a long time now, I think its over a year, Support Players have frequently asked and discussed to rework or to remove item 2049, yet there is so little answer from Riot. I was negativly surprised, when I used the search function on the Boards with Riot Comments to nearly find... no answers. We offered plenty Ideas such as

  • Several SIghtstones with Hp, AP, Mana etc.
  • Upon buying 1 Support Item, you get an extra Trinket slot.
  • Fuse Sightstone + Boots to free an Inventory slot
  • Remove Sightstone, give Supports faster recharging Trinketwards + True Vision after Placing a Ward / in 100 Range.
  • ^Maybe Change the Utility tree for that
  • Even a Summonerspell fusing eg. Exhaust+Sightstone

The Core Problem with item 2049 is that it is pretty much a core Item for Supports so that they can buy item 3341 and it favors Tank Supports, making other Supports and Support-Playstyles less viable. In addition to this Supports have another Core Item: item 3303 item 3302 or item 3301.

So actually, Supports have** 4 Core Items to buy each game** (example) - item 3069 item 2045 item 3117 and item 3341.

Means that Supports can only buy 3 Items of their Choice and otherwise have little to no choice what to buy. I know you can exchange e.g. item 3069 with item 3800 etc. or sell your Support Item later, which especially occurs if you buy item 3303.

item 3303 is problematic because it is meant for Poke Supports, yet its upgrades are so bad that most sell it later to buy anything else. Furthermore Poke Supports struggle even more because of item 2049, having less room to build AP.

Why doesnt it feel good to buy item 2049 with each Support? Why are Supports forced to buy item 2049? Why doesnt it feel worth to Upgrade item 3303? Why are Supports forced to have so little room for Itemization? Why are certain Supports favored because of this and others are not?

Is this not against the Ideals of Riot? :(

With so many Posts about how maybe to fix all that, I feel Riot ignores us :( As of now I feel extremely frustated to know that Riot listen so little to us and gives us so little Feedback what they are thinking what to do with the Supports and Sightsones/ Supportitems and if they have already plans etc. > Please Riot, for the sake of the Supports: Discuss with us!

8 Comments

Sniper 01 votes

This is why I almost always play tank supports. Though the extra hp on a support doesn't hurt. Especially since you're in a lane devoted to keeping you and your carry alive while also giving them a safe environment to farm in.

A different upgrade path to ss could solve the problem. If you take away that initial hp spike you get from ss you lose a lot of survivability.

So something like item 2049 + item 1052 = ???

It would also make it a viable option to upgrade your ss earlier than 30 minutes into the game.

Warden Karma1 votes

What about Support versatility?

Yes Hp is somewhat useful to all but still, Tanks have the "best Card", others a worse. It shouldnt be in my opinion.

Sniper 01 votes

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What about Support versatility?

Yes Hp is somewhat useful to all but still, Tanks have the "best Card", others a worse. It shouldnt be in my opinion.

I provided an example of what ss should do after you get to the point where you can build it up

CoolKnightST1 votes

To be honnest their is no way they can merge the sightstone with a support gold income item without ruining one of their powerspikes. I keep telling myself merging sightstone with boots would still be the best option.

Zielmann1 votes

I'm hopeful that we'll get some love when they make their usual set of larger-scale changes between seasons. They may have thought that the changes that support need would possibly shake things up too much to put them in late in the season.

Warden Karma1 votes

Nevertheless Riot could at least say to us: We know things are a bit unhappy with the Supports so will put work into that after the season ended.

toonpang1 votes

At first I disagreed, but come to think of it, maybe we should remove Sightstone.

Vision is just too damn prevalent. This makes pro games boring. Supports are forced to buy Sightstone if they want to keep up.

Only thing is that we'd probably still be forced to buy vision wards without it.

JustBoneBrook1 votes

Perso i think item 2049 on leona suck... I use to build item 3083 frist (but now it only good if you got 3k hp so i build other item frist) Oh and i think item 3303 should be change into theitem 3844 really nice item good to save alie if the fight is not a poke one.

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