A champion that works well vs Int Sion

Silly Neeko··5 votes·3,862 views

Shyvana. Bork, PTA, black cleaver, you auto Q and pta procs along with 3 borks, and black cleaver, you just keep on going and he dies quick. Then you can outrun him with W if needed. Worked great for me and i dont even play shyv much, he got a few towers but i got towers as well, and we won. Fiora also would work well vs him. But nobody chooses to play champions like these, idk why.

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PhearBunny2 votes

The strongest counter to Inting Sion is Nocturne top. Reason being, you can R to every objective he tries to take and you can keep him permanently feared through essence reaver. Conqueror. Black cleaner. Botrk. Guinsoos. Essence reader. Any AD item. Boots, swapped out for any AD item if the game lasts that long. Also, you can spell shield his Q so you win trades with him early game easily as well.

Yu Ci2 votes

you are all missing out on Ornn , because Ornn does not need to go b as long as you are even w sion in lane, you can screw him over, since he will never gets the chance of pushing to your tower, and that you are constantly buying new items. Personally I recommend start w item 2033 , then go with item 3025 or item 3068

Vlada Cut1 votes

Why buy item 3071 on a Champion that has a lot of magic damage? I get you want to use PTA item 3153 item 3071 synergy but that works on Lucian only. :I

Silly Neeko1 votes

Cdr, cooldown on Q with every auto, cdr, lowers armor, gives health and move speed. Works great for shyv vs an immobile champ like Sion as you crush down his hp. Can get a gunblade after if you want, or a wits end if you want. You will be crushing down any durability he has in no time, and he will be unable to get towers anywheres near as well as he normally would.

Vlada Cut1 votes

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Cdr, cooldown on Q with every auto, cdr, lowers armor, gives health and move speed. Works great for shyv vs an immobile champ like Sion as you crush down his hp. Can get a gunblade after if you want, or a wits end if you want. You will be crushing down any durability he has in no time, and he will be unable to get towers anywheres near as well as he normally would.

A different alternative like item 3078 maybe?

Silly Neeko1 votes

That doesnt reduce armor, which if they are smart they would build after figuring out "oh dang, this person is doing lots of damage cause im full hp. Perhaps i should get thornmail." Also, trinity force wastes a stat on her. She doesnt use mana. While it is a good item for her still, it to me does not seem as good for vs sion as a black cleaver.

Alzon1 votes

Can confirm, the damage increase on purchasing Triforce is marginal for Shyvana because of her low base AD. It’s better to either sit on Phage or upgrade it straight to Cleaver, but I’d prefer to just sit on it and go for a big defensive item like Deadman’s, since even an inting Sion really hurts. Then you can go for more attack speed with Wit’s End/Phantom Dancer or more lifesteal through Ravenous Hydra.

Vlada Cut1 votes

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That doesnt reduce armor, which if they are smart they would build after figuring out "oh dang, this person is doing lots of damage cause im full hp. Perhaps i should get thornmail." Also, trinity force wastes a stat on her. She doesnt use mana. While it is a good item for her still, it to me does not seem as good for vs sion as a black cleaver.

It still gives you AA power thanks to sheen considering you are talking about on-hit Shyvana.

Silly Neeko1 votes

It doesnt provide enough of a boost. There is a reason why on hit builds do not build trinity force.... they do not normally get a ton of attack. Their damage comes from the attacks on hit. What you are thinking is more like a one hit ko build.

On hit means things like Bork, Wits End, Nashors tooth, PTA... shyvana doesnt build much actual damage, due to her having on hit damage from her W, and 2.5% max hp damage from her E on every hit. Her scalings are not that great, but she can still do a lot due to on hits.

You will find if you do trinity force, you will be a lot less consistant. You can do the same amount of damage in the same amount of time, but be able to lessen the effect of things like Thornmail and also be able to survive a lot more.

WoΘxer1 votes

Perhaps Fiora is good after your Nexus is destroyed.

ELEGIGGLE.

DuskDaUmbreon1 votes

Trynd or Nasus would work better and more reliably, though.

Paroe1 votes

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Trynd or Nasus would work better and more reliably, though.

You match goon push with goon push, usually. Any champion who can goon push is a counter to Kamikaze Sion; if he cant push, he cant do his job... And if he tries to kamikaze hes just gonna turn the game into a 4v5.

R35URR3C710N1 votes

Rumble. Crystal Scept, Liandrys are core. Mobi boots and Warmongs if you're feeling extra spicy and want to further mess with the Sion if he tries to alternate lane rush/out-sustain.

Krynnˉ1 votes

I just pick Brand and rush Mejai's and tear the game apart with 170 AP at 8 min. In all seriousness though, that isn't inting Sion, that's just inting, it's a lot harder when they play it properly because he suppose to be played like a normal split pusher, kinda like a tanky more useful Tryndamere.

MalrothDragonia1 votes

Live that Yorick life, wall when he tries to ult into your tower, and he'll just run into your wall :D

DarukongSr1 votes

Vayne would Shrek him and get Uber fed. I also hate vayne, but whatever I guess.

Need Gold 4 Tent1 votes

Any late game hypercarry who splitpushes will work. Doesn't necessarily have to be Shyvana.

Silly Neeko1 votes

True, but i mean to shut down his split pushing. I just figured i would toss out a another idea of a champ people havent thought much about. The Nocturne suggestion also would work wonders im sure. People are always complaining about some champ so if you toss out suggestions on how to deal with them.... it cuts down on all the complaints.

Need Gold 4 Tent1 votes

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True, but i mean to shut down his split pushing. I just figured i would toss out a another idea of a champ people havent thought much about. The Nocturne suggestion also would work wonders im sure. People are always complaining about some champ so if you toss out suggestions on how to deal with them.... it cuts down on all the complaints.

Just get the Trynd/Jax/Yi/ADC to follow him around. If he goes to proxy with his ult, you out-push him with minions because of turret resistance. If he pushes with minions, meet him halfway and kill him. That's exactly what you're doing with Shyvana anyway, and there are far better tank murderers/splitpushers than her.

Silly Neeko1 votes

Note the headline of the post....

"Best" and "better" is argueable. Thats why i simply said "A" champ. I am not here to say something is best or better, just simply to say that this is a champ that can do it fairly well. You literally are saying some of the most overused examples of "what to use to counter him" and obviously.... nobody plays them much, or has not had much success with them.

So some different examples obviously are needed.

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