Toplane is cancer but Tank Viktor is terminal cancer

AggressiveWolf·10/27/2018, 5:13:00 PM·57 votes·17,870 views

This post is basically going to be a rant but HOLY JESUS FUCK IS TOPLANE CANCER RIGHT NOW. As a quick introduction let me flash some of the most common champions you will face during your stay at toplane:

Irelia Jax Darius Sion Garen Aatrox Kled Riven Yasuo Urgot Tryndamere Akali AND LETS NOT FORGET THE NEWEST EDITION TANK FUCKING Viktor.

Now, you may ask, Wolf why are you quitting due to one cancerous LCS build when your up against cancer all the time!?

Because the other cancers HAVE COUNTERPLAY. Irelia can have her shit dodged. Darius has weak spots (in his Q) and can simply be kited or played safe against. Sion can have his shit dodged. Aatrox can have his shit dodged. Riven is manageable early game. Yasuo is mained by idiots (most of the time). Urgot can have his shit dodged and can be bullied (by my experiences) , Tryndamere will just afk split push while you win the game. I can dodge champ select vs jax and alkali.

But viktor, no. He will:

  1. Out movement speed you, you cannot run from him nor catch him. (thanks for giving a mage the ability to run at 600 mv speed)
  2. Out last you, shields up to 13% of his max mana on practically no cool down that keeps procing Kleptomancy which will most likely give him sustain items ontop of his corrupting potion that has time warp tonic.
  3. Out damage you. THIS IS THE POINT I DO NOT UNDERSTAND. I HAVE HAD DEATH CARDS THAT READ 1500 SIPHON POWER DMG WHEN VIKTOR HAS 180 AP? WTF? AND ITS FROM BASICALLY 3 CASTS OF THE ABILITY. ON NO COOLDOWN.
  4. You can't even play safe against him because he is ranged. He can poke you under tower, out of tower, fucking ontop of the tower it doesn't matter. And if he IS HIT by a turret shot, he is most likely shielded.
  5. He scales well into late game, as I have mentioned above he deals ~~fucking ~~ amazing amounts of damage with as little as 180 ap so when he does start building Ap and gearing away from his iceborn, your fucked.
  6. The part that annoys me the most is his dodge-able abilities don't even matter, his laser and gravity field don't matter because he deals enough damage without the laser and runs at mach 50 with a shield so he doesn't need the field to keep himself safe.

All of this leaves us with a point and click tank juggernaut mage that does well in the early game, is a capable lane bully and scales well into late game with no apparent weakness. I have defeated tank Viktor once as some idiot first timed it and went 1/6 in 10 minutes. 10 minutes later im being 2 shot by the same Viktor while my team is ravaged with his Chaos storm.

If anyone disagrees Im welcome to hearing counterplay for someone that mains non-mobility champions and his junglers basically tell him to go fuck himself if he pings for help.

Thanks for your time looking forward to the addition of shield bash [sg-ahri-2]

99 Comments

Get Ogre Here10/27/2018, 6:42:24 PM35 votes

Idk Hashinshin went 0/19 on it so it must be unviable, Riot needs to buff it

/s

Strawberry Milk10/27/2018, 5:15:09 PM11 votes

it's time to main viktor Wolf, do you what you must. If you can't ban them, join them. Viktor

Switch83410/28/2018, 12:09:08 AM11 votes

Mid lane will gladly take back Viktor if toplane ever decides to take back Irelia.

ModCaptainMårvelous10/27/2018, 7:58:20 PM8 votes

IDK man from the sound of it you have pretty much every top laner. I mean from you list who is left?

Renekton Nasus Illaoi Kennen ?

Festive Bear10/27/2018, 6:40:28 PM6 votes

Sorry this is quite the rant As a Darius one-trick, I can confirm it is horrendous right now. Recently had a game against a Viktor top, DEMOLISHED the kid, I mean, he was 0/4 before the game had really ramped up. I leave for 10 minutes or so, walk around the map, a few skirmishes here (cuz I'm already pushed up to second tier tower top). I come back, and I find the Viktor 5/4, with an item on top of me. How is this possible???

Later on, what was my destructive lead, turned into a nuisance as I was attempting to press my advantage on their carries and other laners but soon found it near impossible when Viktor was there, why? Because he would not stop dealing damage. Every second of the fight, he was on top of us tearing us apart. I could not find a single moment when I could jump on top of him and try and pry him off. He would sprint away, laser my team, q me, stun me, then that was it. It's a complete suicide attempt to focus him in team fights because he can silence, stun, and slow you whilst running away at mach 1. Don't forget he also has a shield, and is A TANK so if you focus him, good luck killing him in time before the rest of his team kills you.

I find it ridiculously unfair to have this as a strategy. Same with inting Sion, and same with Irelia in general. Darius is incredibly proned to being kited. Same with almost everyone else on that list. Buit Irelia, Viktor, Sion and Trynd have honestly taken a shit in the soup that is top lane. (To be fair, I have won lane against MANY Tryndameres, even good ones, BUT then proceed to almost loose because they afk split push, join a random fight, delete you with their 1k damage autos, and continue on their merry fkin way.)

If Riot is going to be allowing these kinds of champions to exist, that's fine. What they can't allow is their simply, anti-fun playstyles. Tryndamere should not be able to activate his ultimate under stuns, silences, knockups, or other CC like that (that would regularly not allow you to cast anything). Irelia's scaling needs to be turned wayyyy down. If she manages to complete her item before you, that's game honestly, and dueling her in any way shape or form within minions (early game for that matter) is off the table. Sion, BUFF TOWERS, make them deal % max health damage or something, some way to counter super tanks because else they're worthless once you have 1-2 tank items. And finally, Viktor, lower his unique item AP scaling, or the same but with his Q, maybe even force his movespeed buff and stun to scale with his AP?? So he'll be forced to build AP in order to really get value out of the extra parts in his abilities.

link to the match https://matchhistory.na.leagueoflegends.com/en/#match-details/NA1/2894593572/227820752?tab=overview&participant=1

Resolution10/27/2018, 7:09:02 PM6 votes

Would everyone stop calling things cancer?

inferïor jungler10/28/2018, 9:10:07 AM5 votes

welcome to riot games where we give each ranged champion either 5 dashes or 600 ms, because fuck melee champions

Tahminatrix 10/27/2018, 6:12:10 PM5 votes

Im glad you didn't put TahmKench on that list.

Unhappy because you didn't put Teemo or Heimerdinger who beat toxic by being toxic (pretty similar to viktor and not letting the other players lane without being poked out)

destroyer2271910/27/2018, 11:46:34 PM4 votes

Let's talk about Jayce

ez mental boom10/27/2018, 11:38:24 PM4 votes

"Terminal cancer" implies he will continue being cancer until the game dies

Rather being hard nerfed as soon as Viktor skin sales go back down

Frozen Diva10/28/2018, 1:07:05 AM4 votes

Top lane is the most anti fun experience this game has to offer.

Metallikaiser10/28/2018, 4:07:37 AM4 votes

I could get into my disagreements, but I am tired of arguing the point, instead I will ask, why the fuck do people keep calling it 'Tank Viktor'? Its just an IBG, thats it. Last time I checked no one is calling EZ a tank build the second he gets IBG instead of trinity. It just sounds dumb, and misleading.

Just 4 Memes10/27/2018, 6:29:21 PM3 votes

Now imagine being a MonkeyKing OTP going top every game haha. You should try it, its a good time. You basically have to mega respect every laner, and sit under tower. They don't respect you at all, unless they think they will be ganked.

ApollyonBainer10/28/2018, 7:29:14 PM2 votes

I dont play top but I would just play lissandra. Her kits ez. Her clear is great. Shes super safe. Again not a top lane champ but if the meta changes and viktor is op then adaptation isnt a terrible thing

ChaddyFantome10/29/2018, 1:44:54 AM2 votes

isn't it basically just Tank karma top 2 Electric Boogaloo?

DragonShea10/29/2018, 3:28:49 AM2 votes

Victors main damage ability should be his E. the real problem lies with his Q and it's effects + scaling. Being able to spam shields day in and day out with few gaps in your defends is bad. Nerf Viktors base damage hard and the movement speed from his Q. it's too much as it already.

5050BS10/29/2018, 1:52:28 AM1 votes

So if I pick after I counter pick with Veigar. Its basically FRLO

Acanthus10/27/2018, 7:45:38 PM1 votes

I played against it. It didn't work on me. To me, it's a pretty simple problem. The core build is item 3040item 3025item 3110. If he's going to rely on shielding and armor, magic damage is the way to beat him, especially if you can burst from range. Alternatively, champions that scale well with early item 3071 and excel at short trades can prevent him from building up. My current favorite to take into him is Aatrox because you have similar ranges on your abilities, although it's not point and click. Vik excels at kiting and long trading with his short cds. Don't get baited into chasing with melee.

Sharkerzz10/29/2018, 12:37:08 PM1 votes

As a Jax main it's truly horrible to play vs Tank Viktor , he harrasses you so goddamn hard early game , he got 3 kills on me at 7 minutes , ALT+F4 the game , not gonna play further. But got a leaverbuster. item 3070