Pyke is weak!

The Kombinator·9/30/2019, 10:29:56 AM·1 votes·2,016 views

Saw these threads about Pyke being broken, strong, rework, nerf please. But guys. It's just bad reputation.

If you look at Pyke's kit, then you see, that in reality he is nothing special.

His passive converts health to AD. This passive alone justifies everything else. You can't build him tank. You can't make him take the damage. He NEEDS all those escape, and mobility to be viable. Other assassins like Eve can buy health, if they want. Pyke can't!

His ultimate also mentioned a lot, but guys it's a skillshot. Just learn to dodge it. You have 0,75s (according to moabfire). to use a dash, flash, teleport, or something similar. This is way more, than enough for any player, and every summoner brings flash anyway.

His hook is charged. You have plenty of time to ready yourself for a dodge, or just run out from it. With boots of mobility. Even slow champions such as Janna can outrun the charge time. OR you can use pretty much any form of CC to interrupt it.

So we got a worthless Q, a passive that gives more penalty, than help, and a worthless ult. What's left. Dash+stun! Wow. Like there aren't another 20 champ with similar ability, and stealth. Like again a lot of other champs. His only good part is his passive health regen, but he seriously needs it to be less worthless.

Make his ult point+click like other executes. Darius, Garen, Cho, and Veigar. Make his conversion passive removed, or only convert a part of health at least. Hide the hook's charging.

With these changes he would be viable at least. Right now it's weak as hell with a bad reputation from the players who just can't dodge.

By the way. Could we get a "spanish inquisition" emote? To show something unexpected.

33 Comments

anatasjhsh019/30/2019, 10:46:27 AM11 votes

This has to be a troll post

letsfeedtogether9/30/2019, 10:39:55 AM9 votes

LOL

Ahri Baka9/30/2019, 11:10:09 AM4 votes

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ImTheJuggernauty9/30/2019, 3:21:46 PM2 votes

Wow and after reading the end of your post I have to say, 10/10 troll post my dude. Either that I have to applaud your naivete. Because your assessment of pyke is just absolute trash. Someone light a match and burn this post down. Just awful

warhawk369/30/2019, 2:00:50 PM2 votes

This is bait.

StormBladeMaster9/30/2019, 6:45:20 PM2 votes

Others assassins can build tank... Yeah because the goal of Katarina, Zed, Leblanc is to be played with 3000 hp and 200 armor magic resist isn't it ?

The ulti is a skillshoot lmao... 0,75s is a lot to dogde it... lol. 0,75s is not even 1s dude. And don't forget the animation of Pyke ulti is very short. So you have less than 0,75s to dogde it. If you are CC, you can't dogde it too. Do you understand what this ulti does ?

It's an execute who ignores shield with a high lethality ratio and the CD can be reset if he kill someone like Darius ultimate but it's doesn't need stacks, it's a ranged ability while Darius has to stay at melee range and it's give gold to your teammates.

This ulti is broken, the whole champ is cancer because of this ulti.

I don't know if we can argue with you, you seems like you play in another dimension, on another planet or on another game... Make his ulti point and click ? Hide the hook charging ? I wonder if you are serious.

His hook is perfect. It's may be the only spell that isn't broken on him. It's fair enough, for you and your opponent. You have to predict your opponents movements. By the way, a lot of Pyke come close to their target to make sure she won't dogde it.

His regen is also too much. There is no possiblity to punish a Pyke from making mistake if you can't 100-0 him.

If you can't play him properly, it's your fault, it's all...

You have free flip coin ulti... One time i had a Pyke in my team, he made a triple with his R, and there was 900 gold for me from his ulti passive + the assist gold.

Thanks he falls in lategame because he will be more reliant on his mates to drop the ennemies hp bar. Otherwise he would have no counterplay. But you still have to make the game until lategame which is not easy.

The problem isn't his mobility. The problem is his stupid ulti who have no sense. Giving all this gold only for executing enemies with only a "0,75s (maybe less)" zone spell that is really hard to dogde is unnaceptable. Also his regen is too big. Do you have see this Syndra video with Pyke ? Syndra tried to burst Pyke with a Q E W + RR and ignite combo and he survived by pressing E and W and at the end, he was at 60% of his HP bar.

But the champion concept is stupid. You can't make a "support assassin". Pyke is the example of why it's failed. In lategame, if he isn't feed, he will be a "ulti bot", waiting for someone to be low hp to kill him. But in early and mid game he such a pain and even if you win lane vs him, a single fail on a trade is dangerous because his ulti give so much gold.

He has nothing to be a support except his "gold giving ultimate" and his hook.

It's two concepts that can't be together... A support is here to help his teammates and he rely on them too. You can't carry as Janna if you don't have mates. Your job is to CC, buffs your teammates, poke the enemy, protect your carry...

An assassin is someone who try to focus someone squishy or important in a fight and delete him in a few seconds with his burst. He prefers solo plays (except Katarina and Kassadin who are more teamfight oriented).

You can't make a support assassin because these roles are the opposite. If you want Pyke to be more like a support, you can but you will have to delete his ultimate and replace it with other idea. If you want Pyke to be more like an assassin, you can keep the ulti but you will need to remove this gold share and his regen.

They tried to make a mix beetween the 2 and it's cancer.

Shahamut9/30/2019, 12:41:58 PM1 votes

A refreshing AoE shield ignoring economy busting blinking EXEXCUTE isn't enough for this guy it seems... wth

preternatural9/30/2019, 3:29:17 PM1 votes

I said he was an ult bot now and got flamed because he supposedly has so much "dmg" and "mobility"

now the new thing is blitz cause his hook got some range, pffff

notkai9/30/2019, 5:35:48 PM1 votes

god i wish i were this dumb

1 Inch and Proud10/1/2019, 12:13:56 AM1 votes

he is weak when the team has no synergy. imagine complaining about people being good with a champ and having the enemy team be better than them. pyke is so easy to play against its silly.

Ventace9/30/2019, 9:38:59 PM1 votes

Is this a serious post [sg-janna]

iMidg3t9/30/2019, 2:12:02 PM1 votes

Why r u trying to knock some sense in bad players? Just let them cry about pyke while youre laughing your ass off and making enemy pyke rq because youre dodging his entire kit :p Keep in mind those are same players who thought TK was auto-win top and that blitz has 0 counterplay now.