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Replace CertainlyT with whoever just made the Nunu rework xD

LittleOak·8/13/2018, 5:52:20 PM·15 votes·2,701 views

There is a Certain champion designer who clearly doesn't know how to scale power, keep a reworked champion's identity, or create a balanced state in the game. Whoever helmed the Nunu rework, clearly isn't that designer. Just from the teaser, you can tell this person has a love for both League of Legends and fans of the champion they are reworking. You can tell, looking at the teaser Nunu is going to play extremely similarly to how live Nunu plays now. Whoever was the lead designer and design team on Nunu clearly sat down at the rework table and said "Let's bring Nunu into today's League of Legends" and didn't sit down and say "We are removing Akali, let's steal one of her abilities, make it better, and make a new champion based around that" or "let's see how far beyond the boundaries of fair play and fun to face, we can push this next new champion Zoe, Yasuo, Thresh."

This isn't meant as another hate thread towards CertainlyT, because there are plenty of those on these boards already, but rather a look at the design philosophy that design teams should look towards. I haven't even seen Nunu's ability descriptions yet but I can tell they aren't going to be insane. League of Legends doesn't need champions who have a passive on every ability and are broken beyond repair on release. I hope those who design champions look to the new Nunu rework and take inspiration from this. This person clearly took into account what the players of Nunu loved about the champion and improved those points. They kept him a niche objective based jungler, who has a large team-fight-impacting ultimate. It seems like he has the ability to buff his allies in some way, and has a whimsically fun and interesting way to slow his enemies/catch up to them. If you gave that description to anyone who has played league of legends for over 6 months, they would tell you that is precisely Nunu and no one else. This is what we need when reworking champions. Don't just give us a new champion with an old champion's name and skins. Just make a new champion if that's the case. Keep the essence of the old champion while evolving them into the new landscape of League of Legends today.

TL;DR: I am looking forward to finding out who helmed the project of reworking Nunu, and hope that Riot games strongly follows their design philosophy of "let's evolve, modernize, and improve upon what this champion was" when reworking champions in the future, or take into account that not every champion needs to do a billion things or have countless passives on every ability to be fun or interesting.

To Adventure.. [zombie-nunu-hearts]

25 Comments

Oleandervine8/13/2018, 6:01:47 PM4 votes

In defense of CertainlyT, he remade Warwick, often heralded as one of the most true and successful VGUs of late. In terms of Akali, her kit prior to the new was pretty bland, and chucking a kama and doing a blade spin while dashing everywhere basically made her Katarina with an invisibility shroud, so just keeping her shroud and scrapping the rest really gave her her own true identity. I don't knock him for updating Akali. He did a really good job with her. He added that horrible "obscuring" in her shroud that I feel is too powerful for the game, but aside from that, Akali is well designed for the most part.

Salvor Hardın8/13/2018, 6:04:26 PM3 votes

https://i.imgur.com/xH7SRUQ.png?nodirect

I agree, more reworks like Nunu Evelynn Warwick , and less like those of Aatrox Akali .

Abusing Nunu12/24/2019, 7:56:33 AM3 votes

a year ago, the hive mind was still around to spam downvote true shit like this.

Pika Fox8/13/2018, 7:49:32 PM3 votes

CertainlyT is literally the best designer riot has.

Glîtchy8/13/2018, 6:06:26 PM2 votes

upvoted solely because of title, now I want to upvote again because the text within the post.

EDIT: the definitely need to keep doing more reworks like Nunu, I mean over all the reworks I've seen

Nunu Warwick Evelynn Gangplank and Yorick all kept their original identities because they maintained each of their iconic pieces in their kits, Yorick kept his ghouls, Evelynn kept her succubus like appearance/approach and definitely lives up to it now, Gangplank kept his orange loving, global ulting ways, WW now feels more like a wolf, and Nunu has the more childlike carefree/fun loving demeanor now, while champs who feel like they've been removed completely and replaced are Akali Aatrox and Urgot tho let's face it no one would've cared if they removed urgot instead of reworked him.

JackMcSnipeyz8/13/2018, 7:53:01 PM2 votes

really? because i've counted 4 abilities in the video - which means one of those is probably a passive that is not really a passive, but a 4th ability - already a trade mark of overloaded power. 2nd he has a mini kled ult as a snowball which makes him run and gives him snobwall the size of a lane which stuns and probably deals massive damage His devour is still gonna be annoying to junglers and it looks like he can chomp champions now too! wtf? and he has an AoE auto targetting slow that damages enemies and also stuns them!

See? i can make anything look overloaded and toxic if i word it right, how about you wait for his kit to actually come out without praising him only because a developer you didnt like didnt develop him?

How arrogant can you be to say shit like this?

I haven't even seen Nunu's ability descriptions yet but I can tell they aren't going to be insane.

when we all know these champions reveals and PBE periods tell us NOTHING about actual balance?

Tl:dr - just a generic CT hate thread

BlueBilberry8/31/2018, 2:45:08 AM1 votes

Whoever did the rework, made a mess just as bad as CertainlyT would have.

Deathfall8/13/2018, 7:18:34 PM1 votes

OMG. I understand no one likes his champion designs. The fact of the matter is he creates fun champions to play. The issue is he creates champions that are horrible and unfun to play against. It is just as much his fault as it is the rest of the team for not reigning him in. Zoe and Yasuo are perfect examples of champions who have too much going on in their kits and overloaded with damage. No matter what you do if they get one kill or one item, they are unbeatable. This is just as much his fault as it is Riot's.