We can give her a new passive this way, along with her being able to actually be viable. We have it so that she can only stealth while her ult is off cooldown, while reducing her ult CD. The idea with this is that she cant permastealth so we dont have that toxic mechanic in the game. Now eve has a choice, permastealth or no ult.
Thoughts? Note im not an eve main.
GuileRaven3 votesUmm... No... She would be a completely different champion if you did that. You want to be an invisible 1 shot champion, play rengar. You want a magical rogue who can constantly get around without being seen, play evelynn.
LittleBlast1 votesWhich you still can do, just only when your ults up.
Sire Hippington2 votesthe problem is that smart eves use their invisibillity even within fights to reposition and supprise from another flank, 3 sec till stealth isn't that long. At the same time, her ult is meant as initiation, so you will use it at the beginning of the fight on your initial flank, which with yor change now would deny the use of her stealth for the rest of that fight(and probably beyond), which hurts her gameplay alot.
LittleBlast1 votesWhat if it was when your ult was on cooldown you got stealth? Just tossing ideas around.
Onimus Terlain2 votesThey would have to massively buff her passive and her other 3 abilities.
Or put her ult on a small cooldown.
Because her pre 6 ganking is, basically, half of her viability right now.
LittleBlast1 votesExactly. This way they can actually buff her.
Abyssphere1 votes[{quoted}](name=Onimus Terlain,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=yvixvn4W,comment-id=0000,timestamp=2015-07-13T00:14:47.335+0000)
They would have to massively buff her passive and her other 3 abilities.
Or put her ult on a small cooldown.
Because her pre 6 ganking is, basically, half of her viability right now.
That's the point. You take her early stealth away so that the rest of her kit can actually be allowed to be good.
Sire Hippington2 votesI think that would be horrible for her teamfighting, atleast if you don't play her tank. More damaged oriented eve'S rely on dancing around fights, going in for some burst with E and some Qs, than get fast out again once W resets, wait for the stealth(only 3 sec) and aproach from another flank. Skirting around the edges of a fight with eve feels great and should stay.
The main reason why eve's invis is so damn problematic is that she ignores wards. Let wards spot her, just on reduced vision, and maybe let the vision range of both, wards and champs, scale with ult ranks. This would take her insane early pressure and alow to counterplay her with proper vision, while she still would be able to dance around fights with the stealth and be a dangerous flank as it would still be hard to ward vs her in the late due to reduced vision radius of wards.
Maximum Zilean1 votesShe would need alot more options pre-6 if this were to happen though. Since her entire kit currently revolves around that stealth. And moving it to level 6 would just make her flat out unplayable in her current state.
LittleBlast1 votesShe could get a bit of cc on her passive or something due to her less reliable ganking.
A Miss Fortune1 votesEvelynn is gimped by her passive, not only is it her identity but currently the only reason why she's viable. However, if they buffed her damage significantly or gave her something like a Stun or Snare, she would be unstoppable.
Evelynn can't have her passive changed either, without a total rework, it's her identity. It would be like taking Teemo's shrooms and poisons away, it wouldn't be the same champion.
Bears Dont Care1 votesShe would need some for of hard cc because she has unreliable gangs without stealth.
Emperor Time1 votesNo
HadesBlades1 votesYou do know that her invisibility is the only thing that gives her a leg up early, and then falls off late? What would be the point of eve if you moved her main identity to her ult, it reduces her early pressure, her invading capabilites and her gank potential early on immobile or pushed up laners. Eve is in a decent spot as it is, only thing she needs is VU, and a new mana passive imo. other than that i like eve
Nilok1 votesIf Evelynn does keep her passive stealth (which I want), I would like it if Riot added some stealth detecting roaming "guards" that only Eve can see (and maybe her team). They would function similarly to Kalista's sentinels, but roam the enemy team's jungle and river. They would be invincible and follow Eve for a set time after detecting her. If she is detected by one, she is dropped out of stealth but does not count as entering combat, requiring Eve to skillfully dodge the guards so she can get to her target unseen, or risk getting caught by their ward.