honestly if ur in silver 5

Grimspeake··4 votes·800 views

stop posting about balance, you can literally go 3/7 on your placements and end up in silver.

mages werent nerfed they were definately buffed for the most part.

just because u cant understand the new strengths and build paths to take doesnt mean no one else does :)

gut brand, zyra and malz plz i would enjoy having fun in my games.

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venomous frost11 votes

like gold 3 is any better, a challenger player can pick adc brand and wreck there, if ur gonna exclude silvers from talking about balance, you might aswell exclude anybody that's not master tier.

Grimspeake3 votes

[{quoted}](name=venomous frost,realm=EUW,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=yuqNpkzR,comment-id=0004,timestamp=2016-05-09T11:58:54.406+0000)

like gold 3 is any better, a challenger player can pick adc brand and wreck there, if ur gonna exclude silvers from talking about balance, you might aswell exclude anybody that's not master tier.

Careful u dont lose your next game otherwise ull be gold again lol

venomous frost1 votes

I didn't say platinum was any better either

Grimspeake1 votes

[{quoted}](name=venomous frost,realm=EUW,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=yuqNpkzR,comment-id=000400000000,timestamp=2016-05-09T22:02:37.824+0000)

I didn't say platinum was any better either

its definately not considering half the people in all my games are plat

i hate the fact i have a 84% winrate if i just want to rank up fast. :^)

The Bíg Ticket4 votes

You are right...unfotunately the majority of these boards consists of Bronze or Silver mage mains who won't stop crying until we have 10 mages every game and Zed and Talon or whatever are never picked anymore.

71883083DEL11 votes

[{quoted}](name=The Bíg Ticket,realm=EUW,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=yuqNpkzR,comment-id=0000,timestamp=2016-05-09T10:54:05.186+0000)

You are right...unfotunately the majority of these boards consists of Bronze or Silver mage mains who won't stop crying until we have 10 mages every game and Zed and Talon or whatever are never picked anymore.

truth, guys.

You aren't wrong, these people are solo queuers who WILL cry their ass off if they don't get their way. they will pour hundreds of dollars into the game in hopes that riot will care about what they say or do as a summoner.

This forum is full of the crowd you are speaking about, OP.

Very Hard Engage6 votes

oh right, i guess we should all be diamond zed mains and then say the complete opposite of what a low silver says, and it would be mindlessly upvoted so long as i say "everythings fine, no really it is, riot does a wonderful job just git gud"

when in reality that assassin main plays anything else and falls like a rock, or it gets banned and hes forced to dodge. meanwhile you can play all positions evenly. and or you play a support role better than he does, even if hes diamond and you're not.

The Bíg Ticket2 votes

Rofl what? What does this even have to do with anything I said?

Very Hard Engage4 votes

because bronze and silver mains who cry is absolutely no different than diamond players who cry.

bjergsen - " wait what, they didn't ban zed? time for some freelo baby. if their jungler and support dont camp my lane, were just going to win, they cant stop me at all. when i hit 6 i just kill the enemy laner, its not even a contest, even if i have to flash forwards to R them, its still worth it."

the only difference is diamond players aren't using the forums and complaining about it, they're just abusing it for as long as possible to climb and secure their spot in diamond, you think they want to bring to light what they're abusing?

do you have any idea why diamond+ games are so heavily one sided nowadays? its because balance was screwed when they changed masteries around. and riots been dealing with the fallout since.

The Bíg Ticket1 votes

So the best midlaner in NA can carry games if he gets his best champion and that proves Zed is freelo? But if he did it on Syndra it would be alright.

Ok.

Very Hard Engage1 votes

it doesn't have to be zed, and it doesn't have to be bjergsen, anyone can say/do these things

observe, i have gross stats on several champions in normals. (despite being probably a low end plat player, but in gold 3 because of number of games played, im still paired with low silver/bronze sometimes in normals)

http://i.imgur.com/amfo6lJ.png

the reality is it must consistently be abused and have changed from before in order for it to be deemed "now broken" if no change occurs to zed, they see nothing wrong with him. despite his staggering ban rate because literally no one wants to lane against him.

if i said veigar was stupid OP, with those stats, would you agree?

Annoxis4 votes

While it is maybe true that people sometimes don't understand the nature of the changes, they deserved to be listened when they make a good point. A ggod point is a good point whoever said it. A game should balanced to be enjoyable at all level of play, therefore everyone can give his opinion about the subject.

cinomenapplebae3 votes

"you can literally go 3/7 on your placements and end up in silver" That's only for the first time ;( and then the next placement is lower and lower

JesseBear2 votes

I don't want to say that people in lower ranks don't belong where they are, but if you're already in lower Bronze, you could go 10/0 in placements and still be in lower Bronze. Also, when I first started playing ranked, which I did as soon as I got to level 30 on a terrible computer, I did go 3/7 in placements and I was placed in mid Bronze.

FurriesAreHot2 votes

If you talk like a 7 year old you will get no respect, so take your "ur"s and leave

Grimspeake1 votes

Feed me more downvotes. Obviously ive insulted the bronze players on gameplay :^)

The Last Ballad1 votes

That, and the fact that you did not add any intelligent material for discussion. The best thing that you had to say was

gut brand, zyra and malz plz i would enjoy having fun in my games.

But how would destroying 3 champs improve the game? Isn't that a bad thing? I haven't been able to play any normal games since the rework due to internet issues, but Zyra is stronger now. But she is still weak to anyone with a dash or a gap closer. Assassins are her bane, and she has only a slow skillshot root and her ult, which only applies cc after 2 seconds, to keep her safe. Instead of begging for annoying champs to be nerfed into the ground, why not figure out how to play against them? Play as them, figure out what screws you over, then apply that when you meet them in lane.

Brand is weak to assassins and mobile champs. If you can dodge the Q and W, he cannot get you to timebomb mode without using his ult. I have had good experiences as Karma, as you can use your shield give yourself a speed boost to get out of the way, and the shield comes in handy if you still get hit. I was unable to kill him, but I was able to fight him to a stand still and kill the jungler whenever he tried to gank(though that my failure to kill Brand was a combination of his superior range and my inability to do well in mid) A few more would be Le Blanc, Zed, Ekko, Fiora, Fizz... Those are just the ones I think would do well. The real counter list is; Katrina, Zed, Orianna, Fizz, Zyra, Ahri, Soraka, Leona, Blitzcrank, and Le Blanc.

Malzahar is weak to sustained damage/dot champs(any adc ever, Zyra, Azir, Swain, Brand, etc) Except for Brand, who can hit him with a spell every so often and prevent the passive from spawning for a while(his passive + deathfire's touch), all of these camps can hit him with a weak amount of damage, then go in for their damage after a second. (even Katrina can do this well, as her q debuff has a 4 second timer.)

So, in other words, be like a Kha'Zix/Vel'Koz hybrid. Learn, adapt, and apply. Don't just sit there and whine.

Grimspeake1 votes

the bad players are really coming out of the woodwork

Athenes Lulu1 votes

Your title is correct to some extent, but whatever is in your original post has nearly nothing to do with your title. So in the end, we have no idea on what you're really trying to accomplish other than whining.

Grimspeake1 votes

[{quoted}](name=Cancerous Lulu,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=yuqNpkzR,comment-id=0008,timestamp=2016-05-10T02:04:39.079+0000)

Your title is correct to some extent, but whatever is in your original post has nearly nothing to do with your title. So in the end, we have no idea on what you're really trying to accomplish other than whining.

If you would think about it... Just a little... It means ap itemization is stronger then before and rylais is fuckin annoying to play against.

69469238DEL11 votes

Silver players and Bronze players are bad because they really think that they play well but they have bad teams, when in reality they play like trash bags.

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