Items make it so that you tickle tanks. Doesn't matter how much crit you have because you will see tickling. 300 AD, Infinity Edge x .15 true damage to a 3k health tank with 150 armor = 300 damage you really cant out damage, and out tank a tank, so no point in playing an adc cause it takes them too long to scale anyways the gold for adc items are too damn high
LegitBusinessman4 votesThe true off-meta duo bot:
+ 
MagicFlyingLlama2 votesTry a new ADC!
for seal clubbing.
valid again after revert!
Yami No Ignis1 votesTry a new ADC!
you right LMAOOOOO
Harden Stepback2 votesgood
Morgana Q Misser2 votesAshe feels so good right now 
ChargeItDownMid1 votes[deleted]
OtterlyLost4 votesMarksmen teams will probably still beat out non-marksmen teams. Having a reliant ranged autoattack is extremely overpowered for objective control.
However, we are closer to having diversity in the bot lane role so I guess this is a step in the right direction even if it isn't far enough.
I think you're confused as to what "diversity" is. Diversity is having multiple options. It is not completely shoving an entire class out of the one lane they've been allowed to inhabit for seasons by destroying their viability. There are only three truly viable ADCs at the moment. That is, in fact, the opposite of diversity.
3TWarrior1 votestop, mid, jungle and even support (briefly) or ashe (an off-meta). Marksmen have made appearances in every role and some still occupy them with successful winrates
they've dominated bottom lane and have been mandatory a majority of league's existence, not to mention have had the meta deliberately shaped around them
Since season five, changes to marksmen and supports have been generally unhealthy, only emphasized by the marksman class "update"
even with the changes to allow 50% of AP as damage to towers, to even "consider" an AP character as a replacement, there are only about 3 or 4 in the game that can manage and none of them will secure objectives or wave clear as effectively as a marksman and most of their "guaranteed" damage is lower than the marksmen as well. Then, to add to that, the other classes are outright beaten by the generalist marksmen class. Mages typically lose to marksmen, Assassins tend to do horribly in a dual-lane (which might prove interesting with this new "support"), tanks...tanks will have an early-game advantage over marksmen, but come mid-game, the marksman will outperform the tank...support...a pure support(typically enchanter) won't work unless it's an off-build AD..
marksmen have just been too essential for too long, but fixing that is hard to do just because of their effectiveness as a class
IcyPepper1 votesthey've been allowed to inhabit for seasons
They dominated that lane, not just inhabited. And a good number of them has left that lane for mid and top. As for the rest, being stuck to one lane isn't unique to them (how often do you see Darius mid as meta outside of assassin metas?). Bot lane is unique as being mostly locked to one carry class, as other lanes have different mixes.
At least that was the case. Right now marksman seem to be completely nonexistent in other lanes, save for Graves jungle. Marksman seem to remain dominant in bot lane, however.
OtterlyLost2 votesThey dominated that lane, not just inhabited. And a good number of them has left that lane for mid and top. As for the rest, being stuck to one lane isn't unique to them (how often do you see Darius mid as meta outside of assassin metas?). Bot lane is unique as being mostly locked to one carry class, as other lanes have different mixes.
At least that was the case. Right now marksman seem to be completely nonexistent in other lanes, save for Graves jungle. Marksman seem to remain dominant in bot lane, however.
The only ADC's I ever see top or mid are ADC's that cannot make it in botlane(Quinn and Graves and, for a short period, Lucian and Ezreal). All ADC's go bot lane because any time they're in a spot they can function in a solo lane, solo laners blow a gasket and are like,"ADC CAN"T BE IN MUH LANE." For seasons all lanes have been dominated by specific classes and any attempts to branch out are met with complete rebuttal. ADC's aren't allowed to go anywhere else because the playerbase has pidgeon holed them botlane.
What ADC's go top or mid right now, right this second? The only things I see top are the ridiculously over tuned bruisers right now who have a million different items that they can abuse; bruisers are literally worse the ADC's in that not only do they get to do ridiculous damage early, mid, and late but they also get to be tanky. They literally can use every item in the entire game effectively and even before ADC itemization got fucked over and made outlandishly expensive, they could have one of the cheapest item builds. What other class currently is allowed to use assassin, bruiser, tank, on-hit, and, now, ADC items to just steam roll the game?
The fact of the matter is, ADC's go bot lane because that's the only place they can go. If they go top, the team loses out on engage or tankiness. If they go mid, they can't stand up to the burst there. And if they can go to either of these lanes and survive or not screw up comps, then they're considered broken, the boards instantly whine, and they're gutted and made to go back bot lane.
So forgive the class that's only allowed to be botlane and to function botlane for dominating the lane.
321501 votesADC is getting nerfed because it's ridiculously op. suddenly garbage ADC mains are crying that their role is useless, when it's not, just balanced.
Gabresol1 votesSo... You are gonna go meele on botlane now? Because since there is apperantly no reason to play adcs, meelee must now be better on botlane!
I would say that having a ranged champ wit hconsistent damae is still better and there are also adcs who did not change with the crit changes like Vaus and Kog'maw but no, go meele bot and so how that goes.
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300 AD, Infinity Edge x .15 true damage
where are the 75% other part of damage?