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queen cosgrove··16 votes·9,698 views

howdy he carry he kill insanely fast only counter is z h o n y a even then you wont last he clear lane so soon and then appears on the fucking moon

no really he roams 24/7 and its stupid

he feed so quick it make me sick

dear riot nerf this motherfucker

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Vulkus I9 votes

Shadow ninja bad

Mr Bob Boberson4 votes

Shadow ninja bad Grrrrrr

Kill just as fast from range good yay

iDarkWind8 votes

It's funny because: item 2423 is a thing; item 3191 is extremly overpowered vs lethality stackers; He has one of the most delayed burst as an assassin since his R takes 3 seconds to detonate; He usually doesn't get priority mid because in order to do so he has to use all his energy and cooldowns wich will make him extremly vulnerable for the next 15 seconds or so, that's why he usually freezes and CS under turrent; He roams as fast as anyone else, because you literally won't see a Zed using his W with 20 seconds cooldown to be faster, that's just plain dumb; His early game is great, not strong. His mid game is terrible and his late game is actually very good for an Assassin, but he is still heavly gated by energy in the teamfights, wich means that wihout a blue buff, he runs out of energy very quickly.

But oh well, Board's players are always right.

Bishasaurus Flex11 votes

item 3191 is OP vs lethality? I'd say its definitely the other way around lmfao.

iDarkWind6 votes

Then you're definitely fcking wrong. It isn't even an opinion, it's a fact. Do you even understand what lethality does? Consider take a read about the matter before speaking.

queen cosgrove8 votes

i mean i built it the last time i played against zed and he still ate my ass

Bishasaurus Flex2 votes

Because it's shit. It's the only Armor item for AP mages.

iDarkWind5 votes

Wich crafts one of the best defensive items in the game with an amazing build path and a combined cost of components of 300 gold. You saying item 3191 is fcking hilarious not gonna lie.

Bishasaurus Flex3 votes

Darkwind is a negative Nancy. I looked at his board profile and all his responses are condescending. He's probably a toxic kid that's on his 2nd or 3rd account. Im sure we will see him on the player behavior boards about how his account was banned.

iDarkWind7 votes

No I am not. This is my first and only acc. The thing is very simple: You all are terrible at this game and it's hilarious when it's stated FACTS but you deny them because in your Silver games it doesn't work on that way. Guess what? I could probably pick Garen mid and I would suceed myself on that rank but it doesn't make him an overpowered pick because it works on lower ranks.

EDIT: You're quite desilusional for a fact. "Im sure we will see him on the player behavior boards about how his account was banned." You made me laugh actually. But yes, definitely the balance team will definitely balance the game around Silver III Ranked :)

Bishasaurus Flex2 votes

How did I know you would bring my rank into this lmao.

iDarkWind3 votes

Because either you like it or not it is and will always be the best way to determinate someone's knowledge. When you use your superiority in rank to prove your argument is rank shaming the other players, yet when I'm saying something that is a FACT and not an opinion and the other player disagrees, I just have to stand that? Rank shaming is shit and always will be. But sometimes I have to use it in order to prove my point because you literally didn't bring any facts whatsoever to prove your point that lethality counters item 3191 wich is a FACT that it doesn't and every high elo streamer will tell you that.

iDarkWind6 votes

The item itself doesn't have a brain to autowins the matchup.

Saianna3 votes

zed main spotted :D

iDarkWind3 votes

Yes, and for that reason I am very aware of his weakness and what other high elo players that face to in order to counter me into oblivion. You're all act as if I wasn't aware that must of you when facing lethality stackers won't build item 3191 first item instead of item 3802 and then come to board's crying how lethality users are overpowered.

Saianna2 votes

First of all, if you are forced to buy Zhyona first, then you are screwed for a while, as you buy (the only Armor/ap) item that slows your progression.

On top of that Zhyona has 3 times the CD of Zeds R. Which potentially means out of Zeds 3 kill attempts, one should successfully go unhindered vs Zhyona.

Imagine playing as Zed and your first item not having AD, but magic resist. Ok I know Zhyona adds AP, but it's negligible tbh. Just imagine being behind simply because you have to build against enemy. It. fucking. sucks. as. fk.

Zed could buy hexdrinker, which is a defensive item, but first it's SO MUCH CHEAPER, second It already has strong defensive passive in it, third it builds into very strong all-round item.

iDarkWind2 votes

Ok, I'll try to point out why your argumentation is wrong in many ways.

First off, no one talked about getting a complete Zhonya's first item, howeever, it isn't bad as you sound it is. Because, to beguin with Zed's R in laning phase has the same cooldown as the Zhonya's, I don't even want to try to understand why did you say it has 3x higher the cooldown of Zed's R, if that only happens much later into the game and when Zed has 40% CDR, but anyways, moving on to the point - Most players take inspiration as secondary run, and go for item 2419 and rush item 3191 and from that they have two options: If somehow they are losing against Zed in that situation and used their item 2423 they rush item 3157 or they can rush item 3802 and complete Zhonya's after, and if they aren't struggling, they can simply ignore Zed and proceed to rush their first item as they wish. Considering that the player we're talking about is decent, he is wasting 1100G to make Zed completly useless and being a total "cockblock" to him, and since Zed can't kill you and probably can't waveclear faster than you to roam, you can sit in the lane shoving the wave into his turrent and prevent him for moving from the mid lane.

Now moving to the next thing you said, it's actually very funny: "Imagine playing as Zed and your first item not having AD, but magic resist. Ok I know Zhyona adds AP, but it's negligible tbh. Just imagine being behind simply because you have to build against enemy. It. fucking. sucks. as. fk.

Zed could buy hexdrinker, which is a defensive item, but first it's SO MUCH CHEAPER, second It already has strong defensive passive in it, third it builds into very strong all-round item."

If people here think that mages lack of build diversity - I introduce you the extremly example of lack on that department: AD Assassins. Zed and Talon are forced to build item 3142 and item 3147 , they can't simply throw away 1300G to buy an item 3155 without putting themselfes behind. I know very well that item 3155 on board's is a very popular item that is used as argument against AD mid laners - wich lmao, is a totally joke. Not only you delay by a lot your CORE items, but the upgrade of item 3155 wich is item 3156 is simply terrible on the assassins.

And if you think I'm wrong, the difference is very clear here: item 3157 is build almost by any mage, even when not facing assassins such as Zed for example. It's one of the most popular items on mages, meanwhile how many times do you see someone building item 3156 if not in cases where literally the enemy team is full of magic damage? Comparing item 3157 to item 3156 and item 3191 to item 3155 is ridiculous.

Exin01 votes

aware or biased?

iDarkWind2 votes

After reading your replay to one of my arguments I just came to the conclusion that you must be trolling and trying to piss me off or some crap.

Sirsir2 votes

It helps but its not Op and it doesn't guarantee you will live. More like its the only item that gives you a speck of a chance against lethalitards because its a broken stat

my nama jeff4 votes

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It helps but its not Op and it doesn't guarantee you will live. More like its the only item that gives you a speck of a chance against lethalitards because its a broken stat

lethality is garbage... armor completely shits on lethality. One cloth armor negates the entire lethality from a full item

iDarkWind3 votes

Do you even know what you're talking about? The item itself is a component of a greater and broken item item 3157 , and before you say "You just say that because it counters Zed" - It isn't only that. The item itself has one of the strongest actives in the game, and it isn't only used to counter Zed ultimate and other simular ultimates. Why do you even think people literally pay 600 gold for a statless item such as item 2423 in first place?

But moving to the point, item 3191 has 30 armor and can stack up to 45. Together, item 3142 and item 3147 wich are the first standart items for any lethality user, offer 18+21 lethality wich is 39 lethality. Translated, it means that the lethality user AT LVL18 ONLY will ignore 39 armor from his target, and once again I SAY AT LV18. Doing the math wich is very simple in this case, a full stacked item 3191 is already enough to deny the lethality provided by two items that both cost 2900 gold. Do you see a problem here? 1100G (item 3191 ) is denying the lethality provided by two complete items wich together cost 4800G (item 3142 + item 3147 ). And here we're talking if we consider the lethality user being lv18, because at levels 11 for example an item 3191 not stacked is enough already to counter the lethality provided by item 3142 and item 3147 . And what do mages sacrifice at all by building item 3191 ? Nothing besides a sloth if they don't want to get Zhonya's until their second or third item.

And before you tell me that you're not wasting 4800G only for the lethality stat, wich is true, both of these items are very balanced around the fact that they provide lethality, and that's one of the reasons they offer very crappy AD values.

Exin01 votes

pls add lethality from sudden impact. Countered lethality doesent mean he does 0 damage, bufed Q, electrocute and ignite on top of ult do tons of damage and seekers doesent really help you, maybe once in laning phase and stasis without team to save you just delay death by few seconds. There is nothing OP on Zhonays and are buyed just for active which is wierd coinflip between noob trap and saving your ass.

iDarkWind2 votes

Out of all of the answears I've recently got, you deserve a gold medal for the worst. Sudden Impact? What the hell? That rune that literally gives you 8 lethality when you use a dash or whatever? How many times will that rune even help Zed at all during laning phase? Until a decisive all in it's a rune that doesn't exist, AKA the reason why so much people would rather take taste of blood.

Buffed Q? Oh, you talking about the 10 damage buff that costed him his AD Steal mechanic that at lv1 Ultimate on a mage would steal around 9 AD already? It's that "buff" you're talking about? Game breaking buff I would say /s.

Have I really just wrote a big fat text to you completly ignore it and come here to answear "item 3191 doesn't really help you"? Are you messing with me or what?

And that wasn't even the worst: "stasis without team to save you just delay death by few seconds. There is nothing OP on Zhonays and are buyed just for active which is wierd coinflip between noob trap and saving your ass." Excuse me, shut your mouth up. I'll repeat what I said: What I stated isn't an opinion, it's a FACT. Statis active is broken as hell and that isn't an opinion, it's a straight up FACT either you like it or not. And saying that buying item 3157 is a weird coinflip is so laughable that I seriously can't take you seriously. The item has one of the best build paths, if not the best, is cheap, has one of the most broken actives in the game and his components are just flat out stupidly strong and on top of the cake the combined item only costs 300G.

Who Fed Ru6 votes

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item 3191 is OP vs lethality? I'd say its definitely the other way around lmfao.

Then you never played a Lethality user and are just bad at math.

But I guess shadow ninja bad gimme upvotes

my nama jeff4 votes

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item 3191 is OP vs lethality? I'd say its definitely the other way around lmfao.

No, it quite literally (mathematically) is OP vs lethality

RRmin Hammer5 votes

armor is op against lethality. you can have seeker as a mage get the full zed combo lvl 6 or 7 which men the triple q plus ult and ignite live when he has ghostblade or dusk seeker is an 1100 gold item btw

Highwiseene2 votes

No you can't.

Seeker's does a lot, but it doesn't do that much.

Daddy Ants4 votes

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item 3191 is OP vs lethality? I'd say its definitely the other way around lmfao.

No.

45 armor after getting 30 cs.

That's enough armor alone to remove the lethality from 2 full items.

manolis2012 votes

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No.

45 armor after getting 30 cs.

That's enough armor alone to remove the lethality from 2 full items.

Here is someone who knows math tell them dude nice one i totally agree! :)

IcyPepper2 votes

But oh well, Board's players are always right.

Are you lowkey dissing yourself

iDarkWind1 votes

It's called being ironic if you don't know what is it.

BlueSmurf20187 votes

me: points at book titled: FACTS

me: opens book

book: zed is really only god like for the first 10 minutes and then if u have a carry on your team he becomes useless and incapable of doing anything

Thefrostyviking5 votes

LUL silly you are.

A carry is not what Zed fears, it is something different, something smaller and seemingly more insignificant.

Something purple.


What Zed fears, is Lulu denying him all kills!

EºMOºTION6 votes

He's an assassin it's his job to kill squishies if you have an issue dying to assassins then play a tank lol.

Sir Saltarin5 votes

Zed is just a shadow of the champ he used to be

Bishasaurus Flex2 votes

What you did there...I see it.

DrippyBrownHole5 votes

anyone can roam

queen cosgrove1 votes

my issue with his roaming is how ridiculously fast he's able to clear a lane

The Chillin2 votes

He can't clear till level 9 and even then he must use W, together with good minion rng hoping for casters to stay clumped. Don't even TEST me with this waveclear crap. I main the champ with 2 million mastery in diamond. If he isn't being punished for dropping W on a wave, or his midlaner matching waveclear, then thats player error.

pveman3 votes

i dont want to be rude to you. but your bronze 4.

i am not even high elo and I can get to gold playing champions i dont know how to play.

queen cosgrove1 votes

if you're talking to me--i'm bronze II xoxoxo

Highwiseene1 votes

I don't see how you thinking how easy it is to climb is relevant.

Daddy Ants3 votes

item 3191 item 3046 item 3053 item 3026 item 3157 all cuck Zed pretty hard.

Highwiseene3 votes

item 3047 as well. If you're into a mostly AD team and are playing a mage, buying seeker's and tabi will pretty much make you unkillable.

Exin02 votes

tanks melts in this game but mage with boots and seekers become unkillable?

The Chillin1 votes

They are very entitled players as a whole yeah. "I DESERVE to live, because if he killed me that would make him 'O P'!"

TrikzterzArma2 votes

Zhonyas doesn't even counter him. His ult has shorter CD than Zhonyas

FSRER2 votes

I would prefer to be matched vs zed any day than to get matched vs kata

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