AP Assassins are becoming obsolete

The Pale Woman··5 votes·1,332 views

"New Assassin Dagger Recipe: Serrated Dirk + B.F. Sword + ??? gold -over 3000 gold total- +75 Attack Damage +5% Movement Speed UNIQUE Passive: +10 Armor Penetration UNIQUE Passive: Basic attacks on an enemy champion apply Nightfall (60 second cooldown). Nightfall: After 2 seconds, deal 25% of the target’s missing health as physical damage. If the target dies before Nightfall ends, the cooldown is refunded." [source: PBE]

The last thing League of Legends needs in its current state is more buffs to AD champions, specifically AD assassins.

With the newest release for AD Carry items, unintentionally the AD assassin's were buffed as well since they can benefit heavily from using the items made for AD Carries. The new items provide great attack damage, high movement speed and critical strike chance for those who need it.

Yasuo _ (Who was already broken before hand) _ received a huge buff and with some builds + runes can reach a 100% Crit chance. Zed _ (Who required skill before) _ has become broken and is increasingly becoming more popular due to the new AD carry items, personally in my past five games each of them contained a Zed. Now we want to buff him even more?

What happened to champions like Diana Leblanc Evelynn Kassadin and other AP Assassins?

They are falling off and becoming irrelevant because they can't keep up with the new AD centered items and masteries, yet Riot still feels the need to give NOT JUST AD ASSASSINS, but any champions who are AD access to this new item as Brofresco said "a Zed ult"?

Meanwhile, all AP characters essentially build the same items every game - Death Cap, Luden's and Morello/Athenes, there is hardly any options or versatility for them vs. their counterparts.

The state of the game is becoming more favored towards AD champions and if not giving the player base much choice with what is 'fun' vs. what is viable.

In my honest opinion I feel like Riot should be focusing less on more AD items, and more on balancing the ones released.

If all else fails, a few tweaks to DFG or a new AP item entirely seems like one solution to bring AP assassins and AD assassins back to the same level.

However, it looks like AD champions will be dominating 6th season - I guess we'll have to accept that.

14 Comments

Bondage Bunnyboy2 votes

They're gonna focus on reworking mages and their itemization eventually, I think.

The Pale Woman1 votes

[{quoted}](name=Ravenborn Evaine,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=ynY1r8jT,comment-id=0001,timestamp=2015-12-21T02:09:10.607+0000)

They're gonna focus on reworking mages and their itemization eventually, I think.

One can hope. :(

Joe Dredd1 votes

is LB named evaine or emilia i cant remember and the wiki has both

Bondage Bunnyboy1 votes

[{quoted}](name=Nice Henz,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=ynY1r8jT,comment-id=00010001,timestamp=2015-12-21T05:20:29.651+0000)

is LB named evaine or emilia i cant remember and the wiki has both

Emilia LeBlanc is her current identity, Evaine was her name before the previous LeBlanc died.

CLG Factor1 votes

they need to bring back aoe smite

Lost Hp1 votes

i am more worried about the adcs in combination with this intem

Critmaster Garen1 votes

[{quoted}](name=Lost Hp,realm=EUW,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=ynY1r8jT,comment-id=0002,timestamp=2015-12-21T02:42:38.900+0000)

i am more worried about the adcs in combination with this intem

they said theyll most probably make it melee only.

ProfDrDeath1 votes

I am not. Why?

  • Because the effect is a passive, and only has a two-second window between the first auto applying it and triggering. That is not really much time for an ADC to apply enough damage for Nightfall to matter.
  • Because the item only offers AD and a bit of ArPen, and ADCs are a fairly slot-restricted bunch. This new Assassin Dagger would compete with Bloodthirster, Mercurial Scimitar and Death's Dance, all of which offer things that ADCs want with higher priority than the Nightfall passive.
1st Movement1 votes

Eventually ap rework like shiet my mains got horrible rekt by the increase costs like it takes me longer than usual to snowball to get my core items

Joe Dredd1 votes

yasuo isn't broken lol. they hotfixed warlords. and ad assassins really aren't that good right now. It's why they added stuff like the assassin mastery.

qetzel1 votes

Have you watched IEM? At the highest level of play, Leblanc has done well. I think I saw Kassadin too. They aren't doing too badly.

insaiyanbacca1 votes

problem is AD assassins got hurt pretty hard with the ad changes specifically the brutalizer separating into two items and the lw changes. while ap assassins still have good itemization because they can easily use the same items as mages, granted i think most of the ap assassins are weaker right now, but that is more because of kit nerfs then items tbh.

Beanwater1 votes

AP assassins are still fine. Diana, LB, fizz, and kassadin have all seen play. Katarina is not good or fun to play as though.

Also it's not Zed's ult Jesus isn't it more like his passive?

TheDevice1 votes

Kassadin is played in almost every korean challenger game.

Eve is still a strong pick, just not as stong as before.

Just because Diana isn't broken, doesn't mean shes not good or seen play.

Same with ekko. He's in a fairly healthy state imo.

Leblanc. Srsly?

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