"Buff Lucian"

lucian's main problem (balance-wise) is his mobility which gives him constant self-peel. marksmen already have a support on standby waiting to heal, shield, and peel for them. lucian and a few other marksmen push this level of safety even further by having lots of mobility. The result from all of these levels of safety heavily skews which champions are viable because half the cast of champions cannot reach them unless the marksman and support mess up. It's the kalista dilemma all over again. lucian has been the generalist adc for forever because riot won't give him a strategic gameplay identity with a real weakness.

How about make his passive not proc on-hits so he's not dependant on the strength of Black Cleaver/BoRK

No one cares about Lucian as an adc when he's not a tankbuster/super duelist. If his scaling is more midgame centric then he's usually pretty fair given he's a short range adc and his dash is no longer up very often, Ezreal gets more mobility than Lucian these days. There's plenty of counterplay for the champ so he can at least be allowed to have some early-midgame damage.

His W doesn't really do anything but proc his passive

he needs his range back tbh.... i know they said his range was nerfed because hes mobile and dashes around the opponent but in theory ....... Vaynes range shoukd be reduced for that reason too but yeh he needs his range back or something else

Huh?

I would sign another ezreal lucian meta over current hypercarry delete enitre enemy team in 2 seconds meta anyday

Then give back his range

I would Like Lucian with 525 Range to be honest. But as I recall, 550 range lucian was aids in Season 4, so I the middle ground should be the best point.

I'd rather have a meta than a meta. At least he has to be close to kill you.

The people who say buff lucian are the same people who havent played against lucian tbh

I think Lucian's kit, in general, is just annoying to play against. Also, he has scalings that don't make sense (ap on his w and on his ult I believe), he needs a small rework imo. His abilities don't feel thought through or unique and his kit doesn't really match who he is lore wise. None of his abilities say I'm a undead killer to me. Lucian feels like one of those champs that came out when they were releasing them every 2 weeks, but worse. Not thought through, hard to balance, etc.

The problem with ADC's right now is there's these four catagories and only the top 3 are viable (surprise!)

ADC's with insane late games;

ADC's with good early or mid game and good enough late games.

ADC's who are Draven and can win early.

ADC's with that are kind of OK early and they suck late (...);