Spam pinging “?” when I secure a kill you were in no realistic position to make will not magically transfer the kill to you. If you don’t want your support getting kills then learn to position properly so that way the enemy doesn’t escape with <10 hp and your flash is on cd.
Talidus18 votesADCs who do not know how to trade or see a support setup a kill makes me want to jungle... oh, that's why I jg.
Disembark19 votesI mean as a support there’s like a 50% chance you get a braindead ADC that fucks you.
As a jungler you have like a 80% chance that one of your braindead lanes fuck you.
Talidus1 votesI mean as a support there’s like a 50% chance you get a braindead ADC that fucks you.
As a jungler you have like a 80% chance that one of your braindead lanes fuck you.
If I'm ganking a lane that doesn't seem to be the case very often but, absolutely if I need a lane to follow their counterpart in a roam or is in my jungle. In that instance, your math is solid sir.
Yaśuo Main17 voteswe legit get these same posts all the time, we dont need more PSA's for autofill ADCs.
AirKingNeo24 votesBUT WE HAVE TO CIRCLEJERK HOW MEAN ADC PLAYERS ARE!!!!!
Saianna5 votesThey aren't mean. They are just braindead.
AirKingNeo1 votesmy point proven
Boltonator1 votes
LordGeovanni2 votesOnce is happenstance. Twice is coincidence. Three times is enemy action. - Ian Fleming
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revliledpembroke2 votesYou'd think not, but yet, we still see ADCs do this.
Hethalean15 votesThey'd rather either have 0 extra gold, or 300 extra gold. THERE IS NO BETWEEN!
Flashes10 votesPSA to ADCs from an ADC main
If your support brings ignite, they aren't trolling you
Step Sis Lux6 votesMy favourite, adc dies im getting 2 kills after this and i see one thing ????????? pings, or when adc dies and i survived "useless suport" xD
NekoniClaws6 votesYou mean take a more aggressive position that allows for synergized trading and followup when in a winning matchup/situation as opposed to CSing at max possible distance like a terrified rabbit?
[sg-miss-fortune]
You're so funny! You want an ADC like that get to Diamond!
Boltonator3 votesYou mean take a more aggressive position that allows for synergized trading and followup when in a winning matchup/situation as opposed to CSing at max possible distance like a terrified rabbit?
[sg-miss-fortune]
You're so funny! You want an ADC like that get to Diamond!
Eh, I understand that my opinion matters not since I avoid ranked like the plague but it still boggles my mind when my adc gets an assist and still complains because I helped them get a gold boost + extra lane presence.
ampheon1 votesEh, I understand that my opinion matters not since I avoid ranked like the plague but it still boggles my mind when my adc gets an assist and still complains because I helped them get a gold boost + extra lane presence.
He wasn't saying your opinion didn't matter, he was just saying that you shouldn't expect most things of your AD till Diamond
Dead flag blues6 votesOr when it's an intense fight between both of you (both auto-ing the enemies) and then the adc screams "GG TAKING KILL NOOB"
AR URF6 votestakes kill "This suppport" Dies "this support" Doesn't take kill "this support" ADC dies "This support"
SSShutTheDuckUp5 votes
You do not get ? pinged for KS if you solo kill them them before the ADC can auto them
DepressedAhri1 votesYes you do. Especially when you play 
and solo kill the enemy ADC.
SSShutTheDuckUp2 votesThat's why you play Zyra and solo kill the enemy team, not just the ADC
sparrowhawlk5 votesAs an adc main I agree, what I can't stand is when supports go out of their way to get the kill, like why? How does that help either of us.
Boltonator3 votesAs an adc main I agree, what I can't stand is when supports go out of their way to get the kill, like why? How does that help either of us.
The reason we go out of our way to get the kill should only happen if I, as a support, know your flash is on CD and you have no way of catching up to the retreating enemy. You may not get an assist, which does happen sadly, but that gives the lane about 20+ seconds where we can either push to the tower or allow the adc to finish the last bit of farm before recalling.
SwiftKitten887 votesAs an adc main I agree, what I can't stand is when supports go out of their way to get the kill, like why? How does that help either of us.
as a support secondary yeah, i have seen some supports on my team when i would jungle who would flat out KS our adc, for no reason at all when there was zero way the enemy would have escaped from the adc or killed the ADC in return.
there ARE some really shitty supports out there.
on the flip side, it pisses me off when my adc dive in 1v2 when i pinged i was about to go ward a bush, and then died and i managed i cleanup and get a double and they yell at me.. after i immediately abandoned trying to ward turned around and tried to save them after they ran in like Leroy, and still made the best possibly play i could getting 2 for one.
Boltonator6 votesas a support secondary yeah, i have seen some supports on my team when i would jungle who would flat out KS our adc, for no reason at all when there was zero way the enemy would have escaped from the adc or killed the ADC in return.
there ARE some really shitty supports out there.
on the flip side, it pisses me off when my adc dive in 1v2 when i pinged i was about to go ward a bush, and then died and i managed i cleanup and get a double and they yell at me.. after i immediately abandoned trying to ward turned around and tried to save them after they ran in like Leroy, and still made the best possibly play i could getting 2 for one.
That’s why I find it frustrating when people claim it’s a “brain dead role” yet reality shows you have to make many sacrifices to reliably play support.
SwiftKitten883 votesThat’s why I find it frustrating when people claim it’s a “brain dead role” yet reality shows you have to make many sacrifices to reliably play support.
well i assume some people call it that becuase u dont' need to worry about CSing, however it mean u spend all your focus and efforts on other things like warding, watching the map for ganks on other lane and pinging them out, calling out proper objectives, all while protecting your ADC and trying to set up kills for them.. i guess in higher elo people are supposed to know how tot do that all while CSing too, so they call it "brain dead"
however the people in my games who call it "brain dead, also dont ward or look at thier damn map.. or know how to CS under tower, so yeah...
Boltonator4 voteswell i assume some people call it that becuase u dont' need to worry about CSing, however it mean u spend all your focus and efforts on other things like warding, watching the map for ganks on other lane and pinging them out, calling out proper objectives, all while protecting your ADC and trying to set up kills for them.. i guess in higher elo people are supposed to know how tot do that all while CSing too, so they call it "brain dead"
however the people in my games who call it "brain dead, also dont ward or look at thier damn map.. or know how to CS under tower, so yeah...
It’s not as easy to avoid taking cs with certain supports 
and, ontop of that, if you accidentally take a CS there’s a chance you will accidentally push the lane closer to the enemy tower.
VICHEL CHAOS2 votesOh, so other positions such as mid, top or even adc don't have to watch the map for ganks, don't have to call objectives, don't set up kills, don't have to protect themselves, track the enemy jungler route or similar things while also csing. I get it.
By the way, the part of the game that takes the highest mental tax is orb walking by a huge margin, something that not only adcs have to do but also any melee champion who uses auto attacks even if a bit, also some mages, even melee ap tank junglers have to orb walk while clearing to minimize damage taken. Guess what class' success is least dependent on orb walking?
SwiftKitten883 votes[{quoted}](name=VICHEL CHAOS,realm=EUW,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=yfcOVfho,comment-id=00090001000000000001,timestamp=2018-04-30T00:21:50.413+0000)
Oh, so other positions such as mid, top or even adc don't have to watch the map for ganks, don't have to call objectives, don't set up kills, don't have to protect themselves, track the enemy jungler route or similar things while also csing. I get it.
By the way, the part of the game that takes the highest mental tax is orb walking by a huge margin, something that not only adcs have to do but also any melee champion who uses auto attacks even if a bit, also some mages, even melee ap tank junglers have to orb walk while clearing to minimize damage taken. Guess what class' success is least dependent on orb walking?
ADC? because they can just stand still and auto now?
i spend over half my games supporting these guys, i KNOW how strong they are.
although i guess in that sense we all spend 100% of of game supporting these guys.. because their basically the only win condition out there...
VICHEL CHAOS1 votesI was going to point out that they can't stand still and auto until I remembered Janna/Lulu and the likes. So ehm, yeah, that is a thing that's happening. And yes, it does feel shitty as a jungler to camp bot lane ignoring other places, as mid alne to perma push roam bot or as top lane to be a teleport gank slave. Hope the midseason fixes some things around here. As a side note, I do love the meta of champions in top lane. Irelia vs fiora, riven vs jax, bruisers duking it out everywhere. Very fun matchups, quite intense and interactive. Now the carry potential of top lane and their impact on the game? Not loving it as much...
SwiftKitten883 votes[{quoted}](name=VICHEL CHAOS,realm=EUW,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=yfcOVfho,comment-id=0009000100000000000100000000,timestamp=2018-04-30T01:00:04.118+0000)
I was going to point out that they can't stand still and auto until I remembered Janna/Lulu and the likes. So ehm, yeah, that is a thing that's happening. And yes, it does feel shitty as a jungler to camp bot lane ignoring other places, as mid alne to perma push roam bot or as top lane to be a teleport gank slave. Hope the midseason fixes some things around here. As a side note, I do love the meta of champions in top lane. Irelia vs fiora, riven vs jax, bruisers duking it out everywhere. Very fun matchups, quite intense and interactive. Now the carry potential of top lane and their impact on the game? Not loving it as much...
that is one thing i HATE about the jungle right now.
i literally HAVE to ignore top lane because they flat out don't matter
and THEY KNOW IT.
i literally am forced to babysit bot lane the whole damn game and act like a 2nd support because unless the enemy mid or top can hard-carry like 
top or 
mid... as much as i hate doing it.. spending the whole game ganking bot is the best way to ensure victory.. unless i am 100% sure my ADC is trash and i HAVE to hope to god i can get someone else in the game to carry.. or just try to carry myself even though i play champions that arn't designed to carry.
it also make it hell when playing as support because instead of being able to ward at 6-8 min.. i got to wait 10-12 before i can get my sightstone.. by which time laning phase is already freaking over and the game has already been decided about 75% of the time
LordGeovanni3 votesTop lane bruiser main. It burns but its true.
LordGeovanni1 votesCan orb walk for days more than i can watch both my lane and minimap and play. Not that any adcs or mages have to orbwalk with the high constant dps both have.
VICHEL CHAOS2 votesWell, in lower ranks sure, don't orb walk. Now, at any decent ELO, it is possibly the most important mechanic to get good at. While I don't know if you can orb walk well or not, it is irrelevant to the point. The thing is probably if you can't watch minimap, lane and play while orb walking it is probably because the latter takes up the most mental strain on you so the former become much harder. Oh, by the way, part of the high constant dps adcs have is due to orbwalking. If they stand still they die, if they dont orb walk when moving to kite or reposition they deal no damage.
Doozku1 votesBy the way, the part of the game that takes the highest mental tax is orb walking by a huge margin, something that not only adcs have to do but also any melee champion who uses auto attacks even if a bit, also some mages, even melee ap tank junglers have to orb walk while clearing to minimize damage taken. Guess what class' success is least dependent on orb walking?
What? Orb-walking is easy. If you blind your left click to auto-attack, it become the most menial task you will ever do.
VICHEL CHAOS1 votesI'm not saying that it is hard, but that it takes the highest mental tax. There is a huge difference. You might be the best player out there, but still in a fight you have to click at about twice your auto attack speed while selecting the correct targets for your autos to be at optimum orb walking, and that takes a huge part of your mental resources. It takes accuracy, positional awareness and speed. Sure, you can click aclick behind or infront of you if you are in a 1v1 and it will do the job somewhat functionally, but it is not close to what true orb walking is especially in more crowded situations where you need to constantly switch targets and move in patterns that are not straight lines. That takes a lot of mental toll no matter how good you are at it.
Doozku1 votesThe only time you're really going to be orb walking is in a fight or a trade, in which case you don't really need to be playing the lane at that point because you're fighting the enemy. The only thing you may need to do is glance at the mini-map every now and then to make sure that you aren't being ganked. Sure in a teamfight orb-walking as an ADC may be hard, but that's literally all you're devoting the fight to. You shouldn't really need to be looking at the mini-map in a teamfight because usually the entire enemy team is there and if not you probably don't need to look at the mini-map in the middle of a fight to check if the enemy is split-pushing still or trying to gank you. You also only need to do that as ADC, orb-walking in a teamfight is not needed at all for any melee champion, but even then it is really simple in that case since in that scenario you are only hitting one guy.
VICHEL CHAOS1 votesFirst, the better you orb walk while hitting minions the harder it is for the opponent to land a skillshot or auto harass on you because you stand still for longer. In a fight or a trade you still need to be playing the lane. Still take note of minion aggro and wave manipulation. And most melee champions, maybe singed may have a slight leeway here, need to use orb walking and animation canceling in order to keep on top of targets, maximize damage and dodge abilities. Maybe in lower elos like bronze or silver you can get away with not doing it, but it is key for efficiency. You still need to have map awareness while teamfighting because not all teamfights are 5v5 with all champions in account, in which case you need to be watching off for flanks, pushes and general positional awareness. Even in easy 5v5 scenarios you need to have lanes in mind, to account for waves pushing which may pose a threat to turrets.
Yordle Xayah5 votesI don't care about kills, just don't take cs. Go 9/0 for all I care, just leave my minions :C
Ariel the Cruel4 votes
revliledpembroke4 votesClearly, you should have played Ganesh from Smite, who automatically donates his kill to the nearest player.
I don't know how you'd play a god from Smite in League, but that's what you should have done.
LordGeovanni2 votesI saw when he was released. Played him once in Aram on smite. Didnt want to play him and dont want to play him because when i want to carry because my allies are doing jack to help me i want my kill credit.
giantZorg3 votesIf they would only realize how smooth the lane will be if the support gets early gold. Supports ahead of the gold curve are really a pain to deal with, then they heal/shield a huge amount (enchanters), have constant kill pressure (mage supports) or are rather unkillable (tank supports).
Snowman Arc3 votesThe most frustrating thing is that certain people don't realize that getting a kill is so much more than just getting 300 gold. The fact that you can free farm safely, deny farm from the enemy, along with xp, and possibly some good tower damage is far more important than 300 gold. Not saying that the ideal thing wouldn't be to let the carry secure the kill, but I'm not gonna risk THE SLIGHTEST chance of an enemy escaping just to let the carry get the kill. Basically, the situations where you can LEAVE the kill to the ADC are very clear. Knowing where all other enemies are (or aren't close to you anyway), no way for the enemy to get out, shield / heal themselves or my ADC not dying. But most of the time, ADCs need to deal with it. You lost out on 150 gold. 150 GOLD!, that the support got and is gonna be buffing you up even more now. At the same time, you get a cs lead, an xp lead and tower damage. That's even better.
AirKingNeo2 votesCirclejerk threads made to discriminate are fun, y'know.
Boltonator6 votesCirclejerk threads made to discriminate are fun, y'know.
Given all of the circlejerk threads crying for the heads of those who play support I believe I am entitled to a playful quip one time.
AirKingNeo4 votesReally? I'd love to see highly upvoted threads "crying for the heads of those who play support".
They exist, but hey you can search long and hard for one.
LordGeovanni2 votesHe didnt say they were highly upvoted you dont go there and call them circle jerk though.
AirKingNeo1 votesbut if no one upvotes, no one agrees. My point stands true.
