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ADCs don't build Zhonya's, why?

Llehctim·1/15/2017, 9:23:33 PM·1 votes·1,159 views

They all complain they get deleted by divers, mages and assassins, yet they refuse to build the now very cheap item that negates every assassination attempt with ease.

Build it as 4/5/6th item and laugh as they can do absolutely nothing to gib you. They'll stop trying altogether because of the psychological deterrent of simply having Zhonya's possibly off cooldown.

It wont gimp your damage that much, being dead gimps it a lot more, and the enemy ADC will be vulnerable to being 100-0'd by your own team.

Cheap. Armour. CDR. An active that solves their one major weakness. Even the AP isnt wasted since they usually have at least 1 AP scaling ability.

Am i missing something or is it simply because it's considered taboo for no real reason?

Edit: Apparently this attracted the wrong audience. It was aimed at the people who think ADCs are weak (lol), the rest of us know they're still mandatory and have been for 6 years straight.

14 Comments

ForgiveColour1/15/2017, 9:26:58 PM6 votes

I hope this thread is a joke

oSEXYPLATYPUSo1/15/2017, 9:25:30 PM2 votes

cuz the gold spent on item 3157 isnt efficient for a champ who needs AD ...

MagicFlyingLlama1/15/2017, 9:29:15 PM2 votes

Because it is a total waste of gold, and assassins can be negated by proper positioning. Typically, if you are so out of position that you need hourglass to survive, an assassin will just sit there laughing for two seconds, then proceed to kill you anyway.

Notice how many pro ADCs get a quicksilver sash almost every game, though.

Mysticman891/15/2017, 9:34:06 PM2 votes

Ok they're alive for 2.5 seconds, but now they're almost certainly out of position, and the team fight is probably lost since you lost the adc's DPS for 2.5 seconds, so they'll die soon after.

Contrast with something like QSS or BV, the former which builds into a useful bit of extra AD and lifesteal while providing MR, and the latter which can totally negate a big chunk of burst while providing even more survivability.

Every now and then I do see a zhonyas on an adc so it's not 100% a terrible choice, but usually you want something that'll keep you alive and in the action, since unlike mages, ADC's provide consistent damage. Most mages can unload their spells, zhonyas, and provide almost the same amount of damage since they did their burst up front and needed the extra few seconds for their CDs anyway.

And while many adcs have some AP scaling somewhere in their kit, in many cases it's not in something they'd be using as a primary source of damage (which is usually AAs anyway), so while it's not 100% useless, it's very impractical.

ScissorsNstuff1/15/2017, 9:32:41 PM1 votes

because if you build zhonyas you survive only to be useless later. You are better off just giving up the tower and farming other lanes or jungle

also now they have item 3814

Llehctim1/15/2017, 11:19:16 PM1 votes

This is why LoL lacks strategic and tactical depth, especially comapared to DotA 2.

Instead of banning counters we just ban the most OP.

Instead of counter building, people just cry until Riot nerfs whatever is beating them.

This is also why the pick rate of the overall champion pool in competitive is a joke compared to DotA 2.

This community could learn a lot from that game. I don't like it personally but it is vastly better managed than LoL.

Llehctim1/15/2017, 9:36:35 PM1 votes

Being dead is much less efficient than doing a little less damage.

Carrys in dota often buy items that don't help their damage (blink dagger, euls, force staffz ghost scepter) because they understand this concept.

This isnt a new idea either. Last time rengar was popular adcs would zhonyas while hes mid air and the team would shred him.

Llehctim1/15/2017, 9:37:12 PM1 votes

You guys seem to be missing the part where i said 4/5/6th item, not a rush.

Llehctim1/15/2017, 9:46:11 PM1 votes

It's not me saying adcs are weak lol. The entire game is balanced around them, they're mandatory on both teams in every match.

But since they cry a lot, and currently cey about dying instantly, I'm simply pointing out that the tools they need are already available.

Apparently they want ro build glass cannon without being vulnerable to insta gibs.

singiel381/15/2017, 9:28:57 PM1 votes

Vayne Draven are champs who don't have ap scaling abilities. Vayne is most squishy champ.

A little Peepo1/15/2017, 9:53:59 PM1 votes

Why build zonyas on ADCS when you can build item 3053 item 3026 item 3812 item 3814 item 3102 . Zonyas would help but the stasis isn't exactly all that tbh, it helps but it's not worth getting the stats.