PLS NERF DEVOURER

Lixius·8/26/2015, 10:39:21 AM·99 votes·5,137 views

Clearly everyone knows that devourer is extremely strong, especially on certain junglers. Actually, 90% of bans are of junglers who can dominate and snowball well with devourer, such as Shyvana, Kayle, Xin Zhao, etc. Is it just me or is it pretty obvious there's a problem here?

If a champion with devourer can just stand there, tank damage because they are naturally tanky, and easily get a triple kill because the item makes them very strong... Is that skill or just OP?

103 Comments

Only Aatrox8/26/2015, 1:39:34 PM14 votes

Devourer champions can be managed if you know how to shut them down early, i.e. counter jungeling, invading and keeping track of the enemy jungler. Although a nerf to the early game might be appropriate, so maybe add AS growth per stack instead of giving a flat amount. There was a post about this already but I'm too lazs to find the link :P sorry

Aboylova928/26/2015, 1:17:33 PM6 votes

To me, I ban them because I don't trust my team to deal with them. Personally as a jungler, I dislike the item and don't use it. I also rarely have problems with them. With people playing champs like Yi, Xin, Shyv, ect, it lets you open to play high pressure, absurdly tanky junglers like Rammus, Zac, and Hec, all of which fit very well against the devour champs. You can output much more pressure early, and come late game, you can either sit on top of them as someone like Zac or Hec, or taunt them and cause them to kill themselves with someone like Rammus.

Is it strong? Maybe a bit too strong, but I think part of the problem is people just don't know how to play against them. Keep scuttle control, keep drag warded, counter jungle whenever possible, ward his jungle deep to collapse on him (normally their squishy so two people can kill him no problem, ect.)

Dr Poro8/26/2015, 11:07:02 AM4 votes

Considering the high winrate that devourer champs currently have, I think a small nerf is appropriate. It's not that much stronger than Runeglaive and Cinderhulk but compared to Warrior... The gap is a bit too big. I think buffing Warrior or reworking it so that warrior champions have a chance again (seriously, the only warrior jungler above 50% winrate is shaco!!!) will be a nerf to devourer junglers because stronger early game opponent junglers will make their chance at getting lategame earlier a lot lower.

RoG Vahn8/26/2015, 2:30:12 PM3 votes

here is the problem with devourer

  • 100% auto attack dependent. whats the going to accomplish in team fights? not shit.

  • no early game ganks to speak of since the jungler will be farming heavily in jungle.

  • if counter jungled u may as well ff20.

  • its really boring farming for 15-20 minutes

  • can be countered easily

JedenVojak8/27/2015, 11:11:45 AM2 votes

I thought Devourer was never used in high rank, competitive, due to the fact that it's a farming item when the jungle xp/gold is fed to specific carry members of the team (read: not the jungler)

Taste Your Fear8/26/2015, 11:20:20 AM2 votes

And rework Warrior.

xxxMadLionxxx8/26/2015, 11:43:22 AM2 votes

I agree it does need a nerf....However, I love the phantom hit and the diversity it add to on hit builds. So I' not sure how they are going to solve it.

PT Waluigi8/26/2015, 3:39:31 PM2 votes

"Zhonya's is SOOOOOOOOOOOO op? Yes. Iz broken, because you don't die, and when you don't die, you don't die. You take no damage, which means you no die. Which is cheep."

Voluug138/26/2015, 5:26:00 PM2 votes

I think the problem with nerfing (again) the AS jungle item is that the champions that really needed the boost re going back to darkness, while those that are abusing Devourer will simply jump ship and go abuse the latest item Riot puts out. I believe its time to adress those champions instead of nerfing the item, at least as a first step.

Of course, the inverse is also true, and the champions that need Devourer like Aatrox and Noc may need buufs themselves, instead of depending on a crutch like Devourer.

Then again Shyvana is easily the biggest FotM item abuser (remember Cindertop Shyvana!). Maybe its time to admit some champions like shyvana are lowkey broken and are in a constant ''seeking of items to abuse'' state.

Only Play Darius8/26/2015, 6:45:52 PM2 votes

The only problems champs with devourer are Kayle Vayne and possibly Shyvana because she has quad synergy with on-hits.

All the others are fine. Make it melee only and fix 90% of the problems.

Xizz3l8/26/2015, 10:40:00 PM2 votes

5 out of 6 bans are not for Devourer champs in my elo... guess it's another "the higher the skill the worse the item"?

Shroom Junkie8/26/2015, 11:16:51 AM1 votes

Jax + Devourer + BotRK + Full tank. Especially if its armor, AA's might as well not be a thing, lolololol.