With 10 bans.

AwesomeGuyDj··1 votes·554 views

What's going to happen to people who main the champs that become perma ban? Listen, NO ONE likes playing against lee sin and yasuo, but they DO take skill. They DO have counterplay. Even though it might be obvious. I dont even play these champions, i hate playing against them. But even then, it doesnt seem fair for people who main these champion to suddenly almost never be able to play them. (And no, im not counting blind pick)

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Very Hard Engage1 votes

the counterplay is to counterpick it, its either you do or you dont have the tools to stop them in their tracks, otherwise the game is in their hand to lose. and thats not right for the bulk of the champions.

im not saying they aren't justified champions, but i am saying its completely absurd when you are first pick, pick something like veigar, and then lose on the spot because they picked lee/yasuo/ etc and you couldn't do anything but feed when flash is off CD.

AwesomeGuyDj1 votes

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the counterplay is to counterpick it, its either you do or you dont have the tools to stop them in their tracks, otherwise the game is in their hand to lose. and thats not right for the bulk of the champions.

Well for me, it seems like the counterplay to yasuo is just CC. Bait out windwall and then CC him and abuse kill him. If your team doesnt have any CC then chances are you didnt have a good teamcomp in the first place.

Very Hard Engage1 votes

thats typically how it goes. let your top laner/jungler deal with them(hopefully they're a little bit beefier with targeted CC) and you follow up if needed. while if he ever finds you alone, youre basically dead or have to flash.

in this instance, your renekton top is supposed to handle the yasuo mid. (in a team fight setting) but this does nothing until like the 16minute mark.

DrCyanide1 votes

Lets look at some of the commonly considered 'annoying' champions, shall we? In no particular order: Yasuo Katarina LeeSin Leblanc Rengar Zed Vayne Riven Fizz Darius

OK, that's 10 fairly frustrating champions that a lot of people complain about. But have you ever heard people complain about these champs?: Caitlyn Camille Fiora Hecarim Illaoi Lucian Lux Nasus Rumble Thresh Veigar Syndra Zac Soraka

That's not counting champions that are frustrating after a balance change, or are harder to deal with in lower elo (Blitzcrank MasterYi ), or are new/recently reworked.

Even if 10 bans are a thing, the ban rate for those champions will increase, not permaban them.

As a Xerath main, I don't mind Yasuo (in large part because he can't block most of my spells with windwall), so I'd rather ban someone else (Kat's my go-to, because she's harder for me to deal with and harder still for my teammates).

AwesomeGuyDj1 votes

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Lets look at some of the commonly considered 'annoying' champions, shall we? In no particular order: Yasuo Katarina LeeSin Leblanc Rengar Zed Vayne Riven Fizz Darius

OK, that's 10 fairly frustrating champions that a lot of people complain about. But have you ever heard people complain about these champs?: Caitlyn Camille Fiora Hecarim Illaoi Lucian Lux Nasus Rumble Thresh Veigar Syndra Zac Soraka

That's not counting champions that are frustrating after a balance change, or are harder to deal with in lower elo (Blitzcrank MasterYi ), or are new/recently reworked.

Even if 10 bans are a thing, the ban rate for those champions will increase, not permaban them.

As a Xerath main, I don't mind Yasuo (in large part because he can't block most of my spells with windwall), so I'd rather ban someone else (Kat's my go-to, because she's harder for me to deal with and harder still for my teammates).

Even if its not a perma ban, what if you one trick yasuo and suddenly he's banned in 90% of games?

dakota saturn2 votes

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Even if its not a perma ban, what if you one trick yasuo and suddenly he's banned in 90% of games?

Then you picked a stupid champion to one-trick. He's already one of the champs banned in almost every game.

I ban Yasuo every single game if he's not already banned, and Lee Sin if he is.

DrCyanide1 votes

Same thing you do right now if there aren't enough OP picks to keep him off the ban list.

You can't really one-trick a champion that's that popular a ban, regardless of the numbers of bans. Kassadin use to be permaban status, banned something like 92% of games while there were only 6 bans. If Yasuo is banned something like 90% of games, then you can expect him to get changes to make him less frustrating to play against. Granted, you probably won't like the change (for Kassadin, it was "Rift Walk" turning to "Rift Limp"), but his ban rate will drop afterwards and another champion will take it's place.

Jingo Jhin1 votes

People who ban Yasuo are shit at the game, notice how high elo players don't ban him.

Calabok1 votes

BAN THE CANCERS

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