So bard seems more like he'd be a fun jungler not just a support who's never home.

I get the impression you'd have an easier time jungling with Soraka or Sona than with Bard.

His jungle is unbelievably weak to being counter jungled, though. We'll see the likes of being used to good effect to shut Bard down and wreck his jungle on the routine. Do you suppose his utility is outweighed by the enemy jungler having 2 jungles to play in?

I've watched quite a few popular streamers attempt to jungle Bard on the PBE and they all seem to agree its horrible. His clear is just way too slow to be anywhere close to relevant

He might be worse than Nami as far as jungling supports go.

well I don't know his damage or any of that so I was just basing on his chimes to get around get exp and mamna and such, teleport over walls and stunning for ganks even his ult could do it.and his health pickup to get health after doing camps. but ok thanks for the heads up