Vi tips?

midnight oil24·Dec 9, 2016·1 votes·1,783 views

All right, last one for the day. Sorry for all these posts, Riot.

I'm working on my jungle skills, and am going to be getting Vi. Seeing as I don't know squat about how to play her, what can I do?

Thanks for any tips!

23 Comments

dominusxDec 9, 20161 votes

Ey buddy i got you some tips and tricks. Trick Vi can hold her Q while flashin to cover a HUGE amount of distance and suprice targets if u want a guide on it i suggest YT its a really easy combo to learn. Vi E resets her auto attack so make sure to auto attack before you E Vi Q can hop over most wall in the game to make transitioning the jungle fast and avoiding wards

As for builds i suggest this build - item 1412 item 3158 item 3071 item 3742 item 3102 item 3026 Masteries should be 0-12-18 taking colosus BECAUSE ITS FKN STUPID . sorry had to cry about colosus. Or you can go 12-18-0 and play her mostly dmg taking tld but i only suggest this to experienced vi players who know the champs limits. clear should be blue gromp red and maybe gank mid/bot or you can do red blue gromp and go top etc etc depending on the game. GL HF

RalanrDec 9, 20161 votes

Personally I like to run her 12/0/18 for the attack speed increase. I've also been told that sheen items are great power spikes for her.

Also do you use her E as the third hit proc sometimes? Cause I do for some extra damage.

midnight oil24Dec 9, 20161 votes

Those numbers mean the different mastery trees, right?

RalanrDec 9, 20161 votes

Yes.

Ferocity/Cunning/Resolve.

midnight oil24Dec 9, 20161 votes

That's what I thought. Just checking to make sure. You certainly are busy on these boards. It's always good to see you around.

RalanrDec 9, 20161 votes

Eh, I'm kinda addicted at this point. Glad to know my presence is actually positive to some people.

Surprised actually. Am I popular or something?

midnight oil24Dec 9, 20161 votes

You're just the one constant on these boards, so it's always a good sign when you show up. You're either going to endorse a good idea or slam someone who's being a jerk into the ground.

You, along with TyrekGoldenspear, are the sanity beacons on the boards, so it's better to see you than certain others who frequent the boards.

RalanrDec 9, 20161 votes

Tyrek is definitely a better beacon than me.

But thanks. That made my day.

midnight oil24Dec 9, 20161 votes

Of course! Last comment on this, the main times I comment on a comment chain that others have commented on is if you already have. It means that someone there will probably get what I'm saying.

Permission to add you?

RalanrDec 9, 20161 votes

On friends list? Sure. Though I admit that I'm usually grouping in normals with some friends I often play with.

midnight oil24Dec 9, 20161 votes

Fair enough. But maybe sometime we could play a game, just to see how the other plays. I'm not good at all, just warning you.

RalanrDec 9, 20161 votes

Eh, I'm pretty sure at best I'm like mid silver (unranked) so I'm not great either.

midnight oil24Dec 9, 20161 votes

But at least you're ranked. I still haven't even hit level 30. I can pick up some pointers from you, at least.

RalanrDec 9, 20161 votes

I'm not ranked man, it's just a rough estimate.

midnight oil24Dec 9, 20161 votes

Ohhhhh. Okey doke. But still, I probably wouldn't even make it past bronze 3 right now. And that's being generous.

SGT Dingle BerryDec 9, 20161 votes

You know, as easy as Vi looks I suck so bad with her that I'm hoping you get some good pointers here for me to leach off of lol!

Side note- Hecarim and Olaf are really good junglers, good gankers and are relatively easy to learn. They also have good damage output while still being tanky. With the exception of Vayne (nerf her already!) I can usually dive the enemy ADC, 2-3 shot them and still make it out alive.

midnight oil24Dec 9, 20161 votes

Yeah, feel free to get the tips!

RcGjWO640wDec 9, 20161 votes

As a Vi main, the best advice for ganking is to never initiate with R. Make sure you can stick your Q because once you R, you're committing until someone's dead and if someone doesn't die, you just blew one of the strongest ultimates in the game for nothing. Vi's Q is so important to her combo that missing it cuts her damage in half. If you wiff the Q and they flash, just walk it out. If you ult onto them after they flash, then you just aren't going to have the damage necessary to kill them and you'll be wasting time, cooldowns and mana.

If you do stick the Q, though, ulti that bitch. That's a huge amount of CC that will all but guarantee a kill.

A lot of people have different builds on her, but this is mine that I find the most success with:

item 1408 Vi comes with ridiculous dueling potential right out of the box, so I don't feel like red smite is all that worth it. Blue smite even less so since Vi just has so many options to gap close. Tracker's knife is my go to because the vision is more valuable to my team as a whole. Warrior enchant is great because Vi scales so well with AD.

If they have a really tanky team (3+ tanks), then I'd probably go with item 1418 instead since attack speed on-hit Vi lets her shred tanks super fast with her W synergy. A lot of people don't like attack speed Vi, but it's just way too good at peeling apart tanky comps.

item 3078 This is my main assassin item on Vi. There's a huge debate on whether or not Triforce is really that good on her, imo it's a core item to her kit if you're playing her like an assassin carry like I do. This item means that if you initiate with a fully charged Q->auto->E->Ult->auto->E combo onto a squishy carry, it's almost a guaranteed one-shot. I only recommend this item if you're in a position to carry, though. If you're behind and you try building this, you're just not going to get its full value since you won't be able to one shot people anyway.

Beyond that, building her bruiser/tank is pretty much default. item 3748 item 3071 item 3143 item 3083 item 3053 are pretty basic items that you can pick your flavor of.

As for boots, it really just depends on how you play. I like item 3117 or item 3009 when I'm the carry. They just let you roam more effectively and keep your map pressure high. If you're the dedicated tank, just default to item 3111 since your value in teamfights is pretty much all of your CC and being able to use it is important.

My opinion on the Flash+Q combo is pretty standard: use it if you know you can secure a kill with it, don't bother wasting flash if you can't. The reason is that your Q initiation is so strong as is that if they have their flash up, they'll burn it to get away anyways. If you burn flash on the engage, then you have no method of running them down aside from letting your Q come off CD or using your Ulti, which should be the last option. If you know that a single dive won't kill them, but you want to bait out sums, just run at them with a Q charging and you'd be surprised how many people flash away or flash past your Q just to get out. You burned their summoner with just your Q and you'll still have yours, so it's a win for you.

midnight oil24Dec 9, 20161 votes

Cool. Thank you for the tips!

Just wondering, you said that red smite isn't worth it, so should I only take smite to buy the jungle items?

I agree that the ult doesn't seem like a good engage.

Thanks again for the tips!

RcGjWO640wDec 9, 20161 votes

Smite is still an important summoner with securing objectives and helping you clear healthily. Red Smite isn't bad and if you think you're going to be invaded at all, then it might be a worthy buy. I don't use it personally, but Vi is a champion who really works well with any of the smite buffs. There's no wrong one on her. I just find that I value vision over a higher dueling capacity since Vi already brings a lot of dueling power with just her kit.

Vi is such a versatile champion that you can just about build anything AD or tanky on her and it works. She has a fairly straightforward kit and her value is unquestionable. It also helps that she's in a very good position right now, a contender for the top jungler in the meta because so she's extremely powerful at all stages of the game.

Mr KillalotDec 9, 20161 votes

Another thing I want to point out is trading with her, seeing as you will occasionally be covering lanes. You can use your E to poke people aside from using it as a AA reset. Her Q should also be used during combos, especially if you're trading with someone with a windup. For example, you go to cover for your toplaner when they back because Sion is pushing in. You can initiate a trade with him, wait for him to start his stun, then Q to cancel it. Run Down Mid is MOSTLY right about not initiating with R on ganks, you generally don't want to initiate with it. The only exception I would say is if you know their flash is down, only because you can miss your Q. In these cases it can be better lead with R, then Q to keep them cc'd.

Atreus JonesDec 9, 20161 votes

build tank, punch things

Mr KillalotDec 11, 20161 votes

One last thing to add. Vi has extremely versatile build paths. You never want a cut and paste build with anyone, and this is even more true with Vi. For example, if they have an extremely squishy team you generally wanna go item 1400 , item 3078 , then tank. However, if the other team is very tanky, you'd want , item 3071 , and maybe one more damage item, then go tanky. Hell, if you already have enough tanks on your team you can go full ad assassin. Even full tank isn't bad when needed.