Honor Progress

CoffeeBarrels·Mar 11, 2019·23 votes·11,671 views

I think it would be much cooler and fun if we could see the honor progress as we do with levels, it would feel a lot better to know that you're going up instead of being stuck in a certain level for months and not knowing when to expect an honor promotion.

Sometimes I get honors from days and days straight but there seems to be no progress, and it discourages me some times because I really like the honor thingy, I know there are people who like it as well, like me, and I think seeing a progress bar would be very cool, like, being able to track how "positive" you've been and such. I can't tell for sure if it's really going to impact the behavior of players, but I can at least be honest when I say: this would totally encourage me more to be a more positive player and it would really make me feel much more into the honor system.

Just as a note, I didn't really know where to put this in the Boards, so I just put it here in "Gameplay", please tell me if there is a place better suited for this post.

16 Comments

BigFBearMar 11, 20194 votes

Yeah I never understand what is happening with my Honor it just never changes. I don't know if I go up or down after certain behavior.

Totally useless like it is right now.

ﬂooMar 11, 20191 votes

While I think it should be openly accessible, it's quite clear what action makes it progress and what doesn't. I can see people trying to exploit it for the rewards.

AIQMar 11, 20192 votes

Yeah, but is a bunch of people trying to grab honors and avoid reports really a bad thing? I mean even if the honors mean less, it's still less toxic games if they are trying to get the rewards.

ﬂooMar 11, 20192 votes

Okay I shouldn't have said for rewards. Thing is, if they know what gives you honors, you can also test what DOESN'T. Very simplified: If someone discovers that you don't progress your honor in a game where he said "kys" (obviously), but in a game where he said "end ys" or whatever, and he DOES get honor, one could conclude it doesn't violate TOS. Aka everyone could flame using this term without any repercussions. One could be an asshole without violating the rules and still receive honor and not get caught.

AIQMar 11, 20192 votes

Generally, 1 report, will slow your progress and multiple will halt it. If it's verified it can take away or remove it. False reports are generally ignored. You do not receive honor progress immediately after the game. (Because report would be useless then. Or they'd punish you for a game you were nice in.)

More than likely they are banked and all done at once at the end of the day based on what happened through the whole day. A daily progress feedback page would certainly be nice and avoid the issue you raised. (Unless they were willing to do that all day to test the system, but would probably end up banned. )

Of course this is all speculation based on the fact that key fragments usually appear the next day and that reports and honor progress rewards must occur after the game is done and checked into your history.

Just a tip to anyone that wants to farm some progress, play ARAM. 50 games of no talking and your honor will soar.

ﬂooMar 11, 20191 votes

I don't think a single report can slow down your honor immediately. Random accusations would then be an unfair slow to your progress. Honestly I think there is constant raise in honor, depending on how many honors you receive per game/in a period of time, and is only reset to lvl 1/0 in case you get a ban for TOS violation. A bar with numbers for honor progress would obviously open up for problems such as I mentioned. A general statement per day could technically also reveal what is appropriate by rules and what isn't, even if it takes some dedication. Once that information is out, everybody would know.

Key fragments, like chests are only given periodically. I've received 3-4 frags per week for the majority of time in the last year or so, it's been pretty consistent.

I mean.. aram's are simply faster. Not being a dick makes you not lose your honor. Actually being nice to others makes you gain proper honor, like intended.

AIQMar 11, 20192 votes

I believe we agree on how reports work I just wasn't clear.

To your main point tough, if an exploit is found and well know, Riot will know it as well and can patch/fix it. At the end of the day everyone should know the way honor works fundamentally, be nice get honor, be mean slow or even lose honor.

I guess I just can't wrap my head around someone finding a diabolical exploit to be toxic and not get reported and still receive honor that they wouldn't, A) Get banned for, B) Riot figure out and fix, C) The system adapt and fix.

ﬂooMar 11, 20191 votes

I have no doubts that Riot would eventually fix that. However, it may take its time until this abuse has been figured out + the actions to prevent the exploit impact everyone else as well in their speech and people might find other ways around it. As long as there is no clear indication to what can and cant be said, people will be banned properly.

In case you doubt such people are around.. There was a person who confessed in a post he had started to pay people for making others say "kys" in champ select to prevent someone from trolling, aka getting them perma'd when the term was relatively new. Literally created a business for that shit and had people do that for him. Wish I could find the post.

AIQMar 11, 20192 votes

Fully aware that people abuse things and that they exist. Your scenario while tragic is still irrelevant as it's the opposite of this. The objective is to abuses people and still gain honor.

I don't see how having a daily progress report would incite people to come up with an epic... "I get to tell people to kill themselves and get honor " strat that works. Without Riot or the system being able to deal with that exploit. As you said with the example Riot eventually figured it out, I'm sure the same would happen here. If having a progress report motivates people to be more honorable, I don;t think the draw backs are significant enough to matter.

It could even be weekly if you'd like, then it would be super tough for people to tell, and people get their heads up.

ﬂooMar 11, 20191 votes

Like I said, I'm for a new way to look into your progress, if even if its just per day or an occasional message, idk. This is just my 10 cents to the matter, not my prediction what will 100% happen. Ofc I also hope that people will become more eager to receive honors and take an approach that doesn't cost anybodys game or anyting. But if Riot refuses to openly show progress, I can see why that might be ^^

BlaxonecMar 11, 20192 votes

I dont see any reason why honor is hidden like is right now. +1

True GarenMar 23, 20192 votes

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I dont see any reason why honor is hidden like is right now. +1

Riot likes to redefine English. Almost by definition "Honour" relates to things that are public. If any aspect of ones profile is public, the one point that OUGHT to be, is "HONOUR".

How can you have "private honour"? It's an oxymoron. (But don't use that word in game chat.)

PadoµchMar 11, 20191 votes

Thats one of the reasons I dont play the game anymore that much. Its also one of the reasons I´ve stopped trying to climb in honor lvl. LVL 2 or more? DONE! NEXT...

FaZe Elite IronMar 11, 20191 votes

Getting honored by the same player or for the same thing too much causes decay to progress and can even make you regress a level. Too many people used to try to honor beg especially with premades or target one ribbon.

Original SinMar 11, 20191 votes

Wondering if all 5 people honour their teammates does everyone really 'earn a little bit of extra honour this game'.

LeetriMar 12, 20191 votes

Riot has stated multiple times over the years they'll never do this because Honour isn't meant to be something you intentionally grind, you just naturally get it as you play. If you could see progress you could game the system by figuring out how often you can troll/be toxic without repercussions.