I Want Riven to not be Perma-banned Anymore

CoffeeBarrels·Apr 21, 2019·5 votes·3,031 views

I want to stop banning her every single game, she's been top#1 in the Toplane for months and top#2 overall atm and I don't see any future changes whatsoever, I just want to have more options to ban but if Riven stays there there's literally no other better ban than her, specially as a player who only plays immobile Toplaners.

I get it, she's popular, but she's not going to be less popular if she's not in the top#3 for a couple months, right? Maybe just gut the Conq rune, imo that's been the problem all along, that's the problem with these Hecarims Toplane as well.

13 Comments

YUUKI VKApr 22, 20194 votes

PEOPLE its not the fking rune..... its how fast she can proc it NOTHING ELSE. if she wasnt able to spam the keyboard and get that crap up before most champs can swing one auto, would be alright, for starters Q should only count as one proc, not three, should ONLY get a sheild if she dashes at you, also all her dashes need to be based on her MS on how fast they go. OR CD on her Q starts once the last Q has been used NOT after the first Q press (really annoying).. THEN MAYBE she wont be utter bullshit, still stupid though not to the point where she can shitroll everyone else with 1/10th a functioning brain

RagnaveilApr 22, 20191 votes

Well, they are gonna be instances where something procs a rune faster than others. The only way to do something about that is adjust their power. Does Riven run any other rune besides Conq that allows her to boast that high winrate? Nope, so therefore you nerf her, and not bother nerfing items or runes in that case (or it would weaken other champs who aren't that great even more). This applies to Jax and Vayne too.

YUUKI VKApr 22, 20191 votes

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Well, they are gonna be instances where something procs a rune faster than others. The only way to do something about that is adjust their power. Does Riven run any other rune besides Conq that allows her to boast that high winrate? Nope, so therefore you nerf her, and not bother nerfing items or runes in that case (or it would weaken other champs who aren't that great even more). This applies to Jax and Vayne too.

read before you post next time. im not even going to bother explaing it again.

RagnaveilApr 22, 20191 votes

I know, i'm reiterating and agreeing with your point. Im getting sick of people saying its the rune too. lol

RagnaveilApr 21, 20192 votes

Or simply just nerf her. She's gained a boatload of more stats on top of other non-direct changes benefiting her since S7, and those completely affect the strength of her kit. The massive influx of AD stats for the early game just not only makes up for her cooldowns, but gives her a net positive. And with how easy CDR is just handed out means her cd weakness is less apparent now.

Inkling CommandoApr 22, 20192 votes

I want to stop banning her every single game,

then stop banning her. no one is forcing you to ban her.

YUUKI VKApr 22, 20191 votes

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then stop banning her. no one is forcing you to ban her.

ok, sure thing, lets make every top laner get rolled over by one champ that has no counterplay in the hands of a half competent player

CoffeeBarrelsApr 22, 20191 votes

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then stop banning her. no one is forcing you to ban her.

My LP's health is forcing me to ban her

[slayer-jinx-catface]

Inkling CommandoApr 22, 20191 votes

lol i dont think that counts

hiyaresApr 21, 20191 votes

they are not going to nerf it becasue if they do nerf it al lteh other damage runes they have are going to feel even more out of hand. Legit they need to make it have 1 stat not 2 it should only give true damage and thats it. and honestly boom balanced 10% true damage balanced right the fuck there instead of having a vampiric at lvl 1

CoffeeBarrelsApr 21, 20191 votes

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they are not going to nerf it becasue if they do nerf it al lteh other damage runes they have are going to feel even more out of hand. Legit they need to make it have 1 stat not 2 it should only give true damage and thats it. and honestly boom balanced 10% true damage balanced right the fuck there instead of having a vampiric at lvl 1

Yeah that's what I think too, the 10% true damage healing is kind of too much.

8Belthazor8Apr 22, 20191 votes

I want to stop banning her every single game

Why? You are in an ideal situation. You know which champ is the worst for you to play against and you can ban it. I have to choose among 8 equally cancer/op champions to ban only one. If Riven is more of an issue for you than any other champion then you can use your ban optimally.

CoffeeBarrelsApr 23, 20191 votes

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Why? You are in an ideal situation. You know which champ is the worst for you to play against and you can ban it. I have to choose among 8 equally cancer/op champions to ban only one. If Riven is more of an issue for you than any other champion then you can use your ban optimally.

Do you think I dont have other bans? I just cant ban anyone else without risking myself to fight the best animation cancel abuser, as well as the best conq abuser, as well as the best spear abuser, as well as one of the best level6 fighters, as well as one of the best 1v1 duelists with one of the best in quality and quantity gap closers and disengages, there are more like this, riven just happens to be so much beyond the cancer threshold its crazy.