Riot Support should be able to nullify unfair LP losses

CoffeeBarrels·Jul 16, 2019·3 votes·1,852 views

We all agree that SOLO Q is unfair for a variety of reasons.

-The matchmaking is never 50/50 (although it's supposed and is also trying to be that way). -AFK players are a thing, and that just really sucks when it happens, you can't do anything about it. -Troll players, be it because they're smurfing, because they don't care, because they don't like a certain player in the same game, or just because they want to just straight up troll. -Bugs (Unintentional Disconnections). -Wintrading.

I've been told by the Riot Support before that they are unable to give LP back to people no matter what.

I think this is not right, I think, if a ticket is sent, and the reason for the loss was 100% unfair to the Rioter's judgement, he should be able to restore, or nullify the loss for everyone but the cause (if the cause is a player).

I personally think that the report system, although it works most of the time, it's not enough. I think by doing this, we would be fixing a lot of the toxicity in league.

No more losing LP because someone ran it down. No more losing LP because someone rage quitted at lvl 2 after a death. No more losing LP because people disconnected due to a bug.

If the causal are met and the victim/victims send a ticket with enough information provided, the Riot Support SHOULD be able to do something about it.

What do you think?

PD: I had this idea because once I was unfairly sanctioned (4 premades decided to all report me and lie to the enemy to report me too, which resulted in chat restriction, which made my honor go down to 0), so I sent a ticket and spoke to someone in the Riot Support, who saw how my sanction was unfair, given that nothing was true, and restored my honor level, just like that.

13 Comments

GonahtanuGepardiJul 16, 20192 votes

That would be extremely nice but the reality is not that simple. There are millions of players playing the game and if you play enough games per day, you can see this kind of behavior daily. The amount of tickets would be overwhelming and Riot doesn't have the manpower to deal with that. The only thing they COULD do is make the automated system give your LP and mmr back to you if a player who inted/trolled in your game got punished.

I had this idea because once I was unfairly sanctioned (4 premades decided to all report me and lie to the enemy to report me too, which resulted in chat restriction, which made my honor go down to 0)

There is no point in trying to lie to us. Everyone in the match could report you and you still wouldn't get punished if you didn't break the rules. One report is just as powerful as 9 reports. There is no difference since reports are not the thing that get people punished. A report only triggers an investigation on the player by the automated system. If the system then sees that the player did actually break the rules, it punishes the player. If it doesn't see any rule breaking, it ignores the reports.

CoffeeBarrelsJul 16, 20191 votes

There is no point in trying to lie to us. Everyone in the match could report you and you still wouldn't get punished if you didn't break the rules. One report is just as powerful as 9 reports. There is no difference since reports are not the thing that get people punished. A report only triggers an investigation on the player by the automated system. If the system then sees that the player did actually break the rules, it punishes the player. If it doesn't see any rule breaking, it ignores the reports.

It's not like the Riot Support actually read my chat history and my KDA, also, I was speaking to the Riot Support live, I'm not lying lol, you're just entitled.

It's not like people haven't gotten sanctions for nothing in the past, even on stream, just don't be that guy.

GonahtanuGepardiJul 16, 20191 votes

That's not very convincing. The automated system doesn't make that kind of mistakes when it comes to chat restrictions. The mistakes it makes mostly happen when it tries to punish people for inting or trolling. Not to mention Riot support would have removed your punishment if it wasn't warranted.

Just a rule of thumb: Do not make such statements if you can't back it up with chat logs.

CoffeeBarrelsJul 17, 20191 votes

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That's not very convincing. The automated system doesn't make that kind of mistakes when it comes to chat restrictions. The mistakes it makes mostly happen when it tries to punish people for inting or trolling. Not to mention Riot support would have removed your punishment if it wasn't warranted.

Just a rule of thumb: Do not make such statements if you can't back it up with chat logs.

Sure? Because I do remember Gripex getting a 14 day ban for inting after a 0/1/0 game. Tooootally not possible.

GonahtanuGepardiJul 17, 20191 votes

I did say that the mistakes happen in cases of int or trolling. You were not punished for that though. You were punished for verbal harassment which is way easier to detect without errors. Every single clip of a streamer etc getting unfairly punished is always for inting or trolling and never for verbal harassment.

CoffeeBarrelsJul 18, 20191 votes

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I did say that the mistakes happen in cases of int or trolling. You were not punished for that though. You were punished for verbal harassment which is way easier to detect without errors. Every single clip of a streamer etc getting unfairly punished is always for inting or trolling and never for verbal harassment.

Bro can you actually stop, you have 0 clue about what's true or not, just go away and live your life.

There's those who believe and those who know, you just believe you know, but you don't, just don't try to convince me that what I'm saying is a lie when I know myself it isn't, thank you, next.

GonahtanuGepardiJul 18, 20191 votes

Whatever dude, delusion isn't healthy though.

Soul DealerJul 16, 20191 votes

Agreed

CoffeeBarrelsJul 16, 20191 votes

I bet the downvoters are lazy Rioters who don't want to do this.

FioraWillCarryJul 17, 20191 votes

This post reeks of entitlement. We all get feeders, inters, afks, trolls, shitheads and r%%%%%s. You're not special in this regard. SoloQ over all is not unfair. Individual matches are often unfair but you will win just as many as you lose due to that unfairness. Report the feeders, move on and quit complaining.

How would you feel if you masterfully outplayed your lane opponent, going 4-0 then you skillfully use that lead to single handedly win another lane and eventually dominate and win the game only for Riot to tell you, "sorry, the match was unfair. We can't give you that LP". Get outta here with that shit.

CoffeeBarrelsJul 18, 20191 votes

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This post reeks of entitlement. We all get feeders, inters, afks, trolls, shitheads and r%%%%%s. You're not special in this regard. SoloQ over all is not unfair. Individual matches are often unfair but you will win just as many as you lose due to that unfairness. Report the feeders, move on and quit complaining.

How would you feel if you masterfully outplayed your lane opponent, going 4-0 then you skillfully use that lead to single handedly win another lane and eventually dominate and win the game only for Riot to tell you, "sorry, the match was unfair. We can't give you that LP". Get outta here with that shit.

This post is exactly about the fact that, quoting you here, "WE ALL get feeders, inters, afks, trolls, shitheads and r%%%%s." It was never about me, and the fact that you completely misunderstood my point just makes yours invalid instantly.

Unless you've never played the game, (which I presume, given your confidence about the game being perfect), you would know that the games I'm talking about do exist, and that those LP loses are indeed unfair and they need to be addressed.

Also, try learning reading comprehension, you completely twisted everything and now you're talking pure bullshit, makes no sense.

FioraWillCarryJul 18, 20191 votes

This whole idea about not losing LP due to an unfair match is nonsense. It's not fair to the enemy bot lane when I go 4-0 vs their top lane and single handedly stomp bot lane after roaming. You're saying I shouldn't get LP for that. No, fuck that. Not my fault their top was a noobshit. And I still spent effort for the win if not the effort spent that made me a better player than their top lane. Stomping the game is my reward for that.

CoffeeBarrelsJul 19, 20191 votes

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This whole idea about not losing LP due to an unfair match is nonsense. It's not fair to the enemy bot lane when I go 4-0 vs their top lane and single handedly stomp bot lane after roaming. You're saying I shouldn't get LP for that. No, fuck that. Not my fault their top was a noobshit. And I still spent effort for the win if not the effort spent that made me a better player than their top lane. Stomping the game is my reward for that.

You see? Why are you talking about the winning side, I never said anything about the winning side, I'm talking about UNFAIR LP LOSS, NOT UNFAIR LP GAIN, FFS

Go sleep.

Christ, learn to read.