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Riven actually needs to be talked about more, Super strong in Low elo, and High elo.

SCP 106·1/16/2019, 10:24:04 PM·99 votes·22,806 views

Maining Riven is WAY. WAY. WAY. to rewarding to the players for one. And maining her takes rewards to a new level to the point where enemies can barely do anything about it. I myself mained riven a good while and got her to my third most mastery points and almost hit gold because of it, A friend who was very bad at the game (no offense) started maining Riven and actually went on a HUGE WINSTREAK, LIKE HOLY FUCK I'M TALKING A GREEN MATCH HISTORY PAGE ALL POSITVE SCORE GAMES, VICTORY VICTORY VICTORY AND ONLY 1 LOST GAME OUT OF IT ALL. Went from bronze to platinum like it was nothing, And then I myself did the exact same thing, And made sure at every tower to kill the minions that came before attacking again.

Rivens hardcore strength comes from her not having any resource bar, She can farm with abilities and clear waves like it's nothing in no time, Meaning you can't hold her back from power farming, I also began invading the enemy jungle as much as possible whenever I was pushed up. and with Electrocute I was near unbeatable in 1v1's Even against my main counters such as Garen and renekton.

Riven is also a late game champion meaning even after she stomps you in lane you have no real chance of fighting back, She has 4 dashes, a knock up a stun a shield and an execute ultimate that gives free AD. Abused in high and low elo, Easy to climb with and theres a reason why So many Riven mains are part of the challenger rank.

Edit: Theres currently around 5 Riven mains in top 100 Challenger.

151 Comments

Hayaishi21/16/2019, 10:51:53 PM66 votes

Hashinshin has been spreading the word for years.

Riven is AIDS.

charge attack1/16/2019, 11:05:20 PM60 votes

Because a good Riven can 100-0 people during her CC duration. At least when she builds full lethality you could be like “yeah she’s glass cannon”. But usually she builds off-tank and still has absurd levels of damage and CC. Not to mention her shield scales with AD.

She is probably the most unfun champ to play against outside of lane. Very few people can play her to her maximum potential so that’s why no one talks about her.

deadlychuck1/16/2019, 11:58:32 PM38 votes

Trust me, I've talked about this champion since nearly her release.

The excuse that people have always made for her is that she's "high skill cap", but they completely ignore that riot actively mitigates this "high skill cap" requirement by making her objectively more powerful. It's the same bullshit excuse that people give for yasuo or lee sin. People just like their flashy OP champions with near infinitely high skill caps that give the players a handicap with their built in power. It makes for exciting gameplay that fulfills their power fantasy. Even if it's actively bad game design and unhealthy for the community and the game.

Scorpio Szn1/17/2019, 12:42:54 AM28 votes

I’ve always viewed riven as just a harder scaling version of Irelia that can even be viewed as better than her mid to late game.

Near god like mobility? Check.
Amazing dueling potential that surpasses Irelia mid to late game? Check.
Superior and less counterable burst? Check.
High teamfight presence? Check.
Cheesy early? Check.
Hard scaling top lane champ only succeeded by Jax, Tryndamere and maybe Fiora? Check.
Amazing wavecleae? Check.
Low Cooldowns AND Resourceless? Check.

Like honestly, it’s amazing lol. Don’t get me wrong I understand that Riven takes an absurd amount of skill and time to master, but it shouldn’t excuse the fact that someone who’s mastered the champ should be allowed to abuse her overloaded kit. Bad Rivens are laughable bad and a detriment to their team while master Riven’s have a tendancy to solo carry games simply because her teamfight and dueling potential is insanely strong.

SCP 1061/16/2019, 10:39:23 PM23 votes

Complaining about this champion WILL help me get to challenger guys, trust me

Moody P1/16/2019, 11:03:09 PM22 votes

riven takes skill

hotarse1/17/2019, 1:48:01 AM22 votes

4 dashes, no mana, tons of damage. what's not to like?

inFamous Zion1/17/2019, 1:30:40 PM14 votes

What people that don't play Riven or know her need to understand:

Mastering Riven to the point where climbing is fairly easy (up until Master) takes thousands of games. Matchups have to be learned over and over and her playstyle changes with every matchup. On top of it, Riven mains need to learn the playstyle in every scenario (for instance how to behave vs Renekton when he starts W or Q) This goes for any matchup.
Her cooldowns aren't low. All of her abilities before any CDR item is around 10 seconds. Yes, even E her shield. In harassing matchups Riven players often have to decide whether they want to go in with E to take that one cs before getting harassed too much and lose all cs before her E comes back again, or get all cs but end up with no hp. Her E shield is weak before any items. Her Qs and her E are dashes that need to be understood. They are her ins and outs. For instance if Riven goes all in, she will deal damage but will get too much agro from creeps as well as return damage from enemy and since Riven used her dashes, she is free to be harassed for the next 10 seconds. Therefore, Riven needs to constantly do short trades and do small amount of damage, with half of her kit being All in and half her kit being used to escape with the least damage taken. This is also a variable in every matchup, when Riven is playing vs range harass champ she usually after the game has medium or lowest damage dealt according to graph and early she is down 15 20 cs. Why? Because in early game since enemy harasses her for cs, she can't even trade, therefore Riven starts to deal damage usually out of lanning phase but even that is questionable since most of Rivens split and continue to not deal damage until enemy comes to fight her. Up until then she doesn't deal damage since she can't pick trading over csing.
She is very much killable, despite her having 40% cooldowns mid to late game, if Riven doesn't wait the last second before her Qs expire to Q again in order to reset them over and over, she will not have abilities in a 3,4 seconds period. For instance, if she Fast Qs into enemy, she will not have her Q for that period, but if she harasses from time to time with her Q she will always have her Q due to 40% cdr, but she will not deal damage close enough to when she goes for Fast Q combo.
Lethality doesn't work on her at least for now, but not due to items being hard nerfed but because everyone feels tanky for lethality to work. Therefore she usually rushes Essence R. with gives her Cd, damage and reduces her cooldowns when she activates her ult. But the risk is huge, because it is a greedy build and she is very squishy and fairly easy to be dealt with.
Lower elo doesn't know how to deal with Riven and usually when you see a Riven doing well in low elo, she is smurfing. Still, lower divisions don't know how Riven works nor how to deal with her which is why these kind of posts are made usually by lower elo players. Nobody in higher elo is complaining about Riven nor posts on lol boards, so don't bring up higher elos if you aren't high elo. I have yet to see a high division master/challenger player complains about Riven.
You mention there are 5 Riven mains in 100 challenger? Yeah one tricks that only play Riven. What about Kaisa mains in challenger, or Kassadin mains, Irelia,Jax Mains? This is another absurd information and pointless one to be added from OP. You forget Kha zix mains that constantly climb with that champion, Rengar as well, or any other. If you open OPGG to see leader you won't see many players that got 1000 games with Riven and their second champ is 10 Irelia, but you will see players that abuse constantly 2,3 same champions that are broken. Riven players play only Riven in any situation even when they dont have the upper hand and when they are countered, while there are players that constantly swap between Jax,Irelia,Akali to gain an upper hand (since we talk about toplane) . Same goes for ADCs where they abuse Lucian,Kaisa and now Vayne to get an upper hand over their enemy.

I urge anyone that is complaining about Riven to post their OPGGs to show their rank and confirm my statement where only lower elo players complain about Riven. You will see i guarantee that a huge majority is bellow Plat (gold,silver, even some plats). Don't get annoyed with my comment because it is a fact, and if you think you can win this argument prove my statement wrong.

Finally to add, you talk about you and your friends playing Riven and getting on a win streak, like its a miracle for you (maybe it is idk) but i can pick any champion for toplane and still be on a win streak and climb as well as anyone else. Why? Because as i already said people don't know how to deal with Riven, and you stating that you were gold, confirmed my statement. i've seen players playing Kled and skipping divisions, abusing Sion and skipping divisions, Camille etc. Doesn't matter how hard Riven is to master, unless you are dumb you can understand how her abilities work in game to make her to some degree work in low elo and win games. But you will not win against a good player every nor you can win a single game in high elo like that. Because you didn't master her. Your basic knowledge on any champ can get you out of low elo.

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five oh tree 1/17/2019, 2:18:49 AM13 votes

Riven's strong, but I ban her every game simply because she's unfun to lane against. Very few champions can meaningfully beat her. If, by some miracle, you can outduel her early, your champ probably can't deny her cs well.

For me it's either pick Fiora or play under tower for 20 minutes, and god do I get tired of playing fiora.

SaltyCauseBad1/17/2019, 5:11:36 AM13 votes

But riven mains will just say'BUT UM I CAN LIKE ANIMATION CANCEL SO UM YEA', yy you can naimation cancel so you deserve to be consistently top 10 challenger smd

Lil Homie busta1/17/2019, 6:38:14 AM10 votes

item 3508 I wonder why she's so strong across all elos hm... [Insert Conqueror's Icon here]

Even1/17/2019, 12:34:17 AM9 votes

You know a champion is overpowered when you can almost hit gold while maining them

MorgManBasher1/17/2019, 3:57:02 AM8 votes

item 3508 is pretty disgusting on her tbh

6KEMBE4ORBA1/17/2019, 3:42:10 AM8 votes

She is sleeper op at top and outright broken with 40-45% CDR.

I've been saying it for a long time.

2nd Chance1/17/2019, 3:10:58 AM5 votes

Strong in high elo? Eh no proble-

WHOA whoa whoa, super strong in low elo?

Can't have that, clearly she has to be nerfed like Garen and Yorick were!

Biscuit Bite1/17/2019, 12:46:31 PM3 votes

I agree, Teemo needs a rework!

Hay5eed1/18/2019, 4:45:40 AM2 votes

No resource bar. Low cooldowns CC Execute ultimate All of her abilities scale with AD.

You don't have to manage mana You BARELY have to manage cooldowns Your CC lets you safely engage or peel and all of your abilities scaling with AD means your builds are simple AF too.

She is tailor made to be pretty much as braindead of a champ as you can make. That is not to say that there isn't any skill to play her well, but she is just too easy to play "good".

If there was a whole class of beginner friendly champions it wouldn't be that bad but there isn't and Riven is too effective for how easy she is to play.

Riot will never do anything though because its at low ranks and they only care about pro play and twitch streamers